Unsure of how to approach this type of problem—Current densities in wires

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The discussion revolves around understanding current densities in wires, specifically the relationships between charge, current, and drift velocity. Participants are exploring the implications of various equations related to current and resistance in conductive materials.

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  • The original poster attempts to clarify when it is appropriate to substitute variables in equations, particularly regarding charge and current. They also inquire about the existence of alternative forms of the drift velocity formula. Other participants question how to calculate resistance in wires and its dependence on material properties.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering equations and discussing the relationships between variables. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the drift velocity and its consistency across different wires, with some guidance provided on relevant equations.

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There appears to be some confusion regarding the application of equations and the assumptions underlying the relationships between current, charge, and drift velocity. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the limits of substituting variables in their calculations.

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J = nqvd
J = I/A
Q = It

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Basically we check whether the variable that we are looking at is proportional or inversely proportional. However, at what part do we stop? Where is it okay to substitute say Q = It and where is it not? I am getting confused on this one.

Also, are there other forms of the velocity drift formula? Or is it strictly limited to vd = J/(nq) = I/(Anq) ? Thank you! :)
 

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Do you know how to calculate the resistance of a wire? If the same material, you can find the relative resistance, then use Ohm's Law to find relative currents.
 
For the first question, use this equation:
The Blind Watchmaker said:
Q = It
And for the 2nd question, how does the resistance of each wire depend on the resistivity ρ the length L and the cross-sectional area A?

EDIT -- Beat out by @scottdave Again! :smile:
 
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berkeman said:
For the first question, use this equation:

And for the 2nd question, how does the resistance of each wire depend on the resistivity ρ the length L and the cross-sectional area A?

EDIT -- Beat out by @scottdave Again! :smile:
My answer is only IV true, but in the answer key it is IV and V. How does the velocity drift stay the same in both cables?

vd1/vd2 = J1/nq1⋅ nq2/J2
vd1/vd2 = q2/q1
vd1/vd2 = 4q1/q1 (based on the relation that I1 = 1/4 I2)
vd1 = 4vd2

That is why I am asking whether other formula for velocity drift exists or not (excluding the fermi velocity which is irrelevant here). Thanks!
 

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