Using a 555 timer as an analog frequency divider?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of using a 555 timer to create a circuit that can lower the pitch of an analog signal, specifically a voice input, for applications such as speech synthesis. Participants explore various methods and challenges associated with this task, including the complexities of handling multiple frequencies and harmonics in voice signals.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about using a 555 timer to output a lower pitch version of their voice signal, mentioning their current approach of pulse width modulation and issues with sampling frequency.
  • Another participant emphasizes that a voice contains multiple frequencies and harmonics, suggesting that simply lowering the pitch without reproducing these frequencies may not yield a recognizable result.
  • A proposed alternative involves using an A to D converter to record the voice, storing it in a memory chip, and then playing it back at a different clock rate, which could potentially achieve the desired effect but is noted to be complex.
  • A later reply suggests that achieving real-time processing with analog methods may be impractical, hinting at the use of a microprocessor as a more viable solution for voice modification.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility of using a 555 timer for this application, with some suggesting alternative methods that involve digital processing. There is no consensus on the best approach to achieve the desired pitch modification.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the complexity of processing voice signals due to their multiple frequencies and harmonics, as well as the challenges associated with real-time analog processing. The discussion does not resolve these technical challenges or provide a definitive solution.

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Hey guys,

I'm trying to build a circuit where I can put in an analog signal (my voice) and have it output the same signal with a much lower pitch (speech synthesizer). Is there any way I could do this with primarily a 555 timer?

I'm able to pulse width modulate the analog signal, but I don't really know where I can go from there. I was thinking about bringing in the analog signal via ADCs and then changing the frequency of all of the bits via a few 555 timers and finally DACing the signal into a speaker, but all I get is junk (sampling frequency issue?).

Any ideas?
 
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Your voice doesn't just have one frequency. It has a lot of frequencies and harmonics of those frequencies.

So, it won't sound like you unless you can reproduce those frequencies or at least the relationship between them.

One way might be to use an A to D converter to record your voice into a memory chip and then play it back with a different clock rate and feed this output to a D to A converter.

This might give you something like the effect you are after, but it is complex and difficult to do.
 
vk6kro said:
Your voice doesn't just have one frequency. It has a lot of frequencies and harmonics of those frequencies.

So, it won't sound like you unless you can reproduce those frequencies or at least the relationship between them.

One way might be to use an A to D converter to record your voice into a memory chip and then play it back with a different clock rate and feed this output to a D to A converter.

This might give you something like the effect you are after, but it is complex and difficult to do.

Yeah, I figured as much. I've been simulating with only one input frequency, I could see how this would be cumbersome. Thanks for the tip!
 
I guess you are trying to do it as close as possible to "real time"? That would be a analog nightmare so a uP, which is what vk6kro I believe is suggesting, is the way to go.

Edit: When my daughter was a kid, she had a program that would modify (maybe 4 built-in styles) and the ability to play it backwards. Actually she got good at speaking backwards then playing it back backwards and it sound perfect. lol Anyway I just did a search and you can get software for voice modification. e.g. http://www.screamingbee.com/product/download.aspx"
 
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