Force Gauge vs. Scale: Which is a More Accurate Measure of Deformation?

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Digital force gauges provide more accurate measurements of deformation compared to simple scales, which can be poorly calibrated and exhibit hysteresis. While scales measure the force applied, they may not account for energy absorption in deformable materials, leading to potential discrepancies in readings. When compressing different materials, such as a wall versus a pillow, the scale will reflect the actual force applied, but the deformation characteristics of the materials will influence the perceived force. The key distinction lies in the measurement of force transmitted through the object rather than the force exerted by the punch itself. Understanding these differences is crucial for accurate force measurement in deformation experiments.
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I'm trying to make a fixture measure how much force it takes to deform various items.

However, digital force gauges costs upwards from while simple scales don't cost much at all. What's the difference between using a fancy force gauge and placing a digital scale underneath an item that's being compressed?

Thanks!
 
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Nothing I can think of.

Edit: Except that not all cheap weighing scales are well calibrated. Some may also have hysteresis (eg you get a different result when the force is increasing vs decreasing). Presumably you aren't planning to send the experiment to another planet or up a mountain (eg no changes in g?)
 
Thanks for the input! I think I figured it out though... I'm assuming scales can give a different reading from a force gauge because items can absorb energy, making the scale give a different reading than the force being acted upon the object?

Example -- if you use a scale to punch a wall, the maximum reading will reveal the force of your punch. But if you use a scale to punch a pillow, the absorption of force will cause the reading to change...?
 
momotime said:
Example -- if you use a scale to punch a wall, the maximum reading will reveal the force of your punch. But if you use a scale to punch a pillow, the absorption of force will cause the reading to change...?

No - in both cases the scale is correctly recording the force that you're actually applying.

It takes much less force to compress a pillow than it does to compress a wall - and you cannot push on an object any harder than it pushes back on you.
 
What Nugatory said, plus, if you are putting a force transducer underneath the object, as in your OP, you are not measuring "the force of your punch." You are measuring the force that is transmitted through the object and reacted against whatever it is resting on. The difference is the mass x acceleration of the object, if it changes shape when you punch it.
 
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