Using the Chain Rule to Find the Derivative of a Complex Function: Homework Help

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves finding the limit of a function of the form (tan(4x))^x as x approaches 0 from the positive side, which presents an indeterminate form of 0^0.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of L'Hospital's rule and the transformation of the indeterminate form. There is mention of using logarithmic properties to simplify the limit. Some participants question the appropriateness of directly differentiating the function.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with various techniques being suggested, including the use of logarithms to handle the indeterminate form. Participants are exploring different interpretations and methods without reaching a consensus.

Contextual Notes

There is a focus on the limitations of the power rule when the exponent is a function of x rather than a constant. Some participants express uncertainty about the best approach to take.

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Homework Statement



lim
x-o+ (tan(4x))^x

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to get the derivative i have to use the chain rule so it would be.

lim
x- 0+ (x(tan(4x)^x-1)(sec^2(4)
 
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Hey, jpd5184.

First you have to identify what kind of indeterminate form you have. Can you see you have the form 0^0?

To apply L'Hospital's rule, remember that you need to have \frac{0}{0} or \frac{\pm \infty}{\pm \infty}. What can do you do to transform this 0^0 indeterminate form to one of these? Hint: think of the log function and its properties.

Good luck.
 
Also, although you do not need it here because you do NOT just differentiate the function itself, the derivative, with respect to x, of f(x)^x is NOT "x f(x)^{x-1}". The power rule only works when the power is a constant, not a function of x.
 
would i just make tanx into sinx/cosx
 
I don't think that would be useful to do.

For this type of problem there is a technique that is useful.
Let y = (tan(4x))x
Then ln y = x ln(tan(4x)) = tan(4x)/(1/x)

Now take the limit of both sides, and recognize that what you're getting is the limit of the ln of what you want.

Check your textbook. I'm betting that there is an example that uses this technique.
 
thanks very much, i did learn this technique, just forgot it.
 

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