Variation of saturation photocurrent with intensity

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The discussion revolves around the variation of saturation photocurrent in the photoelectric effect as it relates to changes in light intensity and frequency. The original poster presents a scenario where increasing the frequency of light while keeping intensity constant seems to contradict established principles regarding saturation current.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to reconcile the relationship between photon frequency, intensity, and saturation current, questioning why saturation current remains unchanged despite a decrease in the number of photons per unit time. Other participants inquire about the specifics of the original poster's claims and seek clarification on the conditions of the experiment.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the photoelectric effect and the implications of photon energy. Some guidance has been offered regarding the nature of photon interactions, but no consensus has been reached on the original poster's assertions.

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Participants are examining the assumptions underlying the relationship between frequency and saturation current, particularly in the context of the photoelectric experiment and Einstein's photon model. There is a noted emphasis on the importance of maintaining constant intensity while varying frequency.

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  1. 1. In photoelectric experiment, if anode potential w.r.t. cathode is increased, photocurrent first increases then becomes a constant, since all the photoelctorns ejected from cathode are collected at anode. If we increase the intensity of light at this point, the 'saturation current' increases because number of photons incident per unit time increases. Now the problem is, if we increase the frequncy now keeping the intensity constant, that would mean we are decreasing number of photons incident per unit time, which should result in reduction of current.
Number of photons per unit time = IA/hf .

It is clear that number of photons strking per unit time will decrease, and current must drcrease. However every textbook of physics that i have states that saturation photocurrent will not change when frequncy is changed but intensity is kept constant.

http://dronstudy.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/124.jpg
In this graph, frequencies are different but intensity is same. By my logic, saturation current should be different. But is shown to be same for all frequencies.
Any ideas/ solutions are welcome. Thankyou for your time.
 
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Hi rude man (Nice nickname). Thanks for reply. The question is not about photodiodes. It is about photelectric experiment. The results of photoeectric experiment were explained by Einstein's photon model. The experiment completely follows photon energy model.
 
enkriya said:
Hi rude man (Nice nickname). Thanks for reply. The question is not about photodiodes. It is about photelectric experiment. The results of photoeectric experiment were explained by Einstein's photon model. The experiment completely follows photon energy model.
Oh, OK, sorry. Gotta look into this more. Meanwhile, others will undoubtedly help.
 
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Could you cite a reference saying what you said? In your graph, are you sure intensity is kept constant?
 
Another thought: The weakest photons will liberate electrons close to the outermost orbital only. But it takes higher-energy photons to lberate electrons with larger bonding energies. So the higher-energy photons liberate electrons not liberatable by the lower-frequency photons. So the lower number of photons per unit time is compensated by the ability of those higher-energy photons to liberate deeper-situated electrons.
 

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