Vector Addition Problem - Statics

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The discussion focuses on solving a vector addition problem to find the resultant force Fr from three forces F1, F2, and F3. Participants suggest using both the intermediate vector method and the component method for calculation, noting that the latter simplifies the process by breaking down vectors into x and y components. There is some debate about the accuracy of angle calculations, with one participant indicating that an angle of 29.12 degrees seems too low. Ultimately, the consensus is that the magnitude of Fr is correct, but the angle needs verification, with some suggesting it may be measured from the vertical instead. The conversation concludes with reassurance that the calculations align, allowing the original poster to gain confidence in their results.
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Homework Statement


Find the magnitude and direction of the resultant force Fr=F1+F2+F3 by first finding F'=F1+F2 then Fr=F'+F3

known values are in the link

Homework Equations


Basic vector addition. Law of cosines. Law of sines.

The Attempt at a Solution


Here's my attempt. I'm not convinced by my answer.
http://imgur.com/LcrFApu
 
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Jack_M said:

Homework Statement


Find the magnitude and direction of the resultant force Fr=F1+F2+F3 by first finding F'=F1+F2 then Fr=F'+F3

known values are in the link

Homework Equations


Basic vector addition. Law of cosines. Law of sines.

The Attempt at a Solution


Here's my attempt. I'm not convinced by my answer.
http://imgur.com/LcrFApu

Another way of calculating the force is using x and y components. Add up all of the x components and all of the y-components of the three vectors to get the x and y components of the final vector. This saves you the trouble of calculating an intermediate vector.

x component = magnitude * cos (theta) -- theta measured from +x axis; y-component = magnitude * sin (theta) -- again theta measured from +x axis.
 
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Hello Jack, welcome to PF :)

F' is just fine.
Fr magnitude is fine too. Check the angle calculation. From your drawing you can already see that 29.12 degrees looks to be too low.

Of course, Quantum D gives a good alternative -- that should be equivalent, but I don't know if that's what the exercise wants you to do.
 
BvU said:
Hello Jack, welcome to PF :)

F' is just fine.
Fr magnitude is fine too. Check the angle calculation. From your drawing you can already see that 29.12 degrees looks to be too low.

Of course, Quantum D gives a good alternative -- that should be equivalent, but I don't know if that's what the exercise wants you to do.

I get essentially the same numbers that are in the box using x, y vectors: 19 degrees, 29.6 N
 
QD, I would've much rather have done it using component method, however my professor would take off points.

BvU, are you referring to the 29.67N as being the correct magnitude for Fr and 19.12 degrees being incorrect? Could it be 19.12 degrees from the vertical?
 
Quantum Defect said:
I get essentially the same numbers that are in the box using x, y vectors: 19 degrees, 29.6 N
That's reassuring. Thanks for checking!
 
Jack_M said:
That's reassuring. Thanks for checking!
My final x components were: +9.7 N x^ direction, +28 N y^ direction -- using inverse tangent gives me 19 degrees from y-axis, as you conclude above.
 
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To reassure you both: I've been brainwashed to zero degrees ##\equiv## positive x-axis direction. So I find 1.237 (radians, that is. The one and only reasonable unit for angles :) -- did I also say the brainwashing included ##2\pi## for a full circle ?) And I really am a physicist !

So we all agree and Jack can shed his uncertainty on this subject.
 
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