Vector component perpendicular

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The discussion revolves around finding the component of a vector perpendicular to another vector, specifically using the vectors v = <-3,-2, 1> and w = <-1,1,1>. Participants are exploring the relationships between vector projections and components.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the projection of vector v onto vector w and question the correctness of the provided projection value. They explore the relationship between parallel and perpendicular components of vectors, with some suggesting that the perpendicular component can be derived by subtracting the parallel component from the original vector.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of the concepts involved, with some participants confirming the projection calculation while others express confusion regarding the formulas for finding components. Guidance has been offered on the process of calculating both parallel and perpendicular components, but no consensus has been reached on the use of specific formulas.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating potential discrepancies between their calculations and textbook formulas, indicating possible misunderstandings or differing interpretations of vector components and projections.

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Homework Statement



Suppose v = <-3,-2, 1> and w = <-1,1,1>. Then
projw(v) = < -2/3, 2/3, 2/3 > ,
and the component of v perpendicular to w is?




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The Attempt at a Solution



I understood how to get the projection, and tried using the component formula Compaonb= a*b/magnitude( A )

But did not get the correct answer which is w2 = < -7/3, -8/3, 1/3 >

Where did I go wrong?
 
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Is that projection given? Because that doesn't jive with what I get.

If you find the part of v that is parallel to the direction of w, then the only other part of v that remains must be perpendicular to w, no?
 
That is the answer to the projection yes, I don't understand what you are trying to explain though?
 
Okay, right, that projection is good. That is indeed the projection of [itex]v[/itex] onto [itex]w[/itex]. You could call it [itex]v_\parallel[/itex].

The point I'm making is that, if [itex]a + b = c[/itex], then [itex]b = c - a[/itex], so if [itex]v_\parallel + v_\perp = v[/itex], then [itex]v_\perp = ?[/itex]
 
Perfect I got the correct answer. So what your saying is by getting the projection of v onto w. It gives me a vector V which is parallel to W, and to get the component of that vector we subtract the original vector v by the parallel component " if we want the perpendicular component".

Where I am confused is that there is a formula in my book for getting the component, and its in the form Comp v onto w = v*w/norm of v

Why would using that be incorrect?

Thank you for your help btw
 
The component of v parallel to w is obtained by first calculating the unit vector in the direction of w (dividing w by its own magnitude), and then dotting v with that unit vector. The component perpendicular to w is obtained by subtracting the component parallel to w (times the unit vector in the direction of w) from v.
 

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