Vector Problem Homework: Angle Between A & B

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The discussion revolves around determining the resultant vector C when the angle between vectors A and B is 120 degrees. The participants analyze the mathematical expressions for C, exploring the relationships between the magnitudes of A and B and their resultant. They emphasize the importance of using correct notation to distinguish between vectors and their magnitudes. Ultimately, they conclude that option C is correct, but there are some mathematical errors noted in the calculations. The conversation highlights the need for clarity in mathematical reasoning and notation when solving vector problems.
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Homework Statement


If the angle between two vectors A and B is 120 , it's resultant C will be
a)C = I A - B I
b)C< I A - B I
c)C> I A -B I
d)C= I A + BI

Homework Equations


R= √A ^2 + B^2 + 2AB Cos θ

The Attempt at a Solution


C=√ A^2 +B^2 + 2AB Cos 120
= √A^2 + B^2 -2AB 1/2
= √A ^2 + B^2 - AB
I don't know √A ^2 + B^2 - AB is greater or lesser than I A -B l & I A + B l
 
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And it's time for you to switch to a notation where you can distinguish vectors (##\vec A##) from numbers (##|\vec A|##). Now it's messy.
 
gracy said:
I don't know √A ^2 + B^2 - AB is greater or lesser than I A -B l & I A + B l
There is a theorem requarding this. Set up the "equations"
##A^2+B^2-AB ? |A+B|##
And
##A^2+B^2-AB ? |A-B|##

To get the theorem, square both sides of the question marks (if you don't know how to work with the absolute value, just treat it as parentheses and say that A and B are positive numbers. It won't always work but it does with this). Then, use logic to find if ? is =,> or <.
 
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Some problems can be solved immediately by inspection -- no calculations needed.
We know the resultant is going to be A + B in all cases.
That renders one of your answer choices a no brainer.
Because the angle between vectors is 120o, and we're only concerned with the magnitude of the resultant, more than one answer choice may be correct.
 
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##A^4+B^4-A^2B ^2< |A^2 +B^2 + 2AB |##

##A^4+B^4-AB > |A^2-B^2 -2AB|##

But in my question it is in square roots.

First we will remove square roots for this square both the sides

##A^2+B^2-AB ? |A^2+B^2 + 2AB|##

No prize for guessing ##A^2+B^2-AB < |A^2+B^2 + 2AB|##
Similarly
##A^2+B^2-AB > |A^2+B^2 - 2AB|##
Hence option C.
Right?
 
Isaac0427 said:
There is a theorem requarding this
Which theorem is it?
@Isaac0427 your answers are really helpful :smile:
 
gracy said:
Which theorem is it?
@Isaac0427 your answers are really helpful :smile:
You just found it! Option C is correct, but you did make a mistake in your math.
##|A+B|^2=|A^2|+|B^2|+|2AB|##
The way you did it, the sign would be wrong if A or B were negative. As I said, this is the same as ##|A|^2+|B|^2+2|A||B|##
 
gracy said:
√A ^2 + B^2 - AB
=√(A2+B2-2AB+AB)..
 
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gracy said:
But in my question it is in square roots.
Right, I forgot the square root.
 
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cnh1995 said:
=√(A2+B2-2AB+AB)..
What's this?
 
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It's called a hint
 
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BvU said:
a hint
Is your "hint" supposed to take me on any helpful page ? I am unable to click on it though.
 
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It's not my hint, it's cnh's hint. You are supposed to recognize ##A^2 - 2AB + B^2 ## as ##(A-B)^2##.
 
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cnh1995 said:
(A2+B2-2AB+AB)
But there is + AB as well .
 
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Yes. So ##C^2 = (A-B)^2 ## plus a little leftover. That is one of your choices in the original exercise. Are we still looking at what we are doing, or are we too busy responding instantaneously to any post that tries to help us further ?

And in PF, hyperlinks are blue. Underlining conveys emphasis :smile:
 
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