Vectors in two dimensional motion: Need help with starting

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A car's journey involves traveling 20 km north and then 35 km at 60 degrees west of north, requiring the calculation of the resultant displacement vector. The initial attempt to find the resultant by simply adding the magnitudes of the two vectors is incorrect, as they are not in the same direction. To accurately determine the resultant, one must either use geometric methods or resolve the vectors into their horizontal and vertical components. The discussion emphasizes the importance of understanding vector addition and the relationship between the sides of a triangle formed by the vectors. Ultimately, the correct resultant displacement is stated to be 48 km, highlighting the need for proper vector analysis.
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Homework Statement


A car travels 20.0 km due north and then 35.0 km in a direction of 60(degrees) west of north. Using a graph (that you must construct yourself as the book says... sorry for the inconvenience :/) and find the magnitude and direction of a single vector that gives the net effect of the car's trip. This vector is called the car's RESULTANT DISPLACEMENT.


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You must know the properties of vectors, but even with that knowledge, I can't seem to find the answer. The ANSWER SHOULD BE 48 km. Can someone explain to me why?



The Attempt at a Solution


I added vector A with vector B and got about 55 km. Why am I wrong? Am I missing something?
 
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In general, vectors don't add like that. You can't add up the magnitudes of the two vectors directly, because they aren't in the same direction. The resultant vector should be a vector that indicates how far away the car ended up from its starting point. Try looking at this:

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/vect.html#vec7
 
cepheid said:
In general, vectors don't add like that. You can't add up the magnitudes of the two vectors directly, because they aren't in the same direction. The resultant vector should be a vector that indicates how far away the car ended up from its starting point. Try looking at this:

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/vect.html#vec7
Alright, thanks for the link. But, I still don't know if this is correct, but I managed to get this. I added both vectors, giving me approx. 55 ft. Then I took the square root of that to get approx. 7 ft. I then subtracted 7 from 55 to get the answer: 48 ft. Is that the basic way of doing these problems?
 
mrrocketknigh said:
Alright, thanks for the link. But, I still don't know if this is correct, but I managed to get this. I added both vectors, giving me approx. 55 ft.

Huh? How did you do that? I just finished telling you that you cannot add up the magnitudes of the vectors directly. This should be clear from the diagram. When you add vector A to vector B (which you do by placing them "tip" to "end"), you can clearly see that the length of the resultant R is not equal to the sum of the lengths of A and B. The three form a triangle, and to get the side length of R, you either need to (1) use geometry (based on what you know about that triangle and the lengths of sides A and B), OR (2) you need to resolve A and B into horizontal and vertical components, and add those up separately to get the horizontal component of R and the vertical component of R. Then you can use those to get the magnitude of R.

Either method (1) or (2) will work.

mrrocketknigh said:
Then I took the square root of that to get approx. 7 ft. I then subtracted 7 from 55 to get the answer: 48 ft. Is that the basic way of doing these problems?

Okay this doesn't make any sense whatsoever. The square root of 55 is NOT 7, and you haven't given any indication as to why you tried these steps. Don't just try random things. Examine the diagram and try to understand how to solve for the length of the third side of the triangle given that you know what the other two are.
 
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