Vectors in yz and xz plane dot product, cross product, and angle

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The discussion focuses on calculating the components of vectors in the yz and xz planes, specifically using trigonometric functions to derive values for a_y, a_z, b_x, and b_z. There is confusion regarding the correct assignment of sine and cosine functions, leading to discrepancies in the calculated dot and cross products. The participants emphasize the importance of accurately determining vector components before proceeding with further calculations. Corrections are suggested, with a final angle of 73.3° being proposed for the angle between the vectors. Accurate vector representation is crucial for solving the problems presented.
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Homework Statement
Vector ##\vec a## lies in the yz plane 63.0° from the positive direction of the y axis, has a positive z component, and has magnitude ##2.60 m##. Vector ##\vec b## lies in the xz plane 51.0° from the positive direction of the x axis, has a positive z component, and has magnitude ##1.30 m##. Find (a)##\vec a \cdot \vec b## , (b) the x-component of ##\vec a X \vec b## , (c) the y-component of ##\vec a X \vec b## , (d) the z-component of ##\vec a X \vec b## , and (e) the angle between ##\vec a## and ##\vec b## .
Relevant Equations
##a_y =a sin \Phi##
##a_x =a cos \Phi##
##\vec a \cdot \vec b =ab cos \phi##
I tried to find the components of the vectors.

##a_y =2.60 sin 63.0 = 2.32## and assuming the z axis would behave the same as an x-axis ##a_z =2.60 cos 63.0 = 1.18##

##b_z =1.30 sin 51.0 = 1.01## making the same assumption ##b_x =1.3 cos 51.0 = 0.82## I now think I should have switched these two around, seeing the in the positive direction on the zx plane the z looks like the x and the x like the y.

but going further in this logic I attempted (a)

\begin{matrix}
0i & 2.32j & 1.18k\\
0.82i & 0j & 1.01k
\end{matrix}

##0*0.82 + 2.32*0 + 1.18*1.01= 1.19##

(b)
##2.32*1.01 - 1.18 *0 = 2.3##

(c)

##1.18 *0 - 0*1.01= 0##

(d)

##0 *0 - 2.31*0.82= 1.90##

(e)

##\vec a \cdot \vec b =ab cos \phi##
##1.19= 2.6*1.3 cos \phi##
##\phi = 69.4°##
 
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Check your trig functions. Remember that ##\cos\Phi=\dfrac{\text{adjacent}}{\text{hypotenuse}}##.
 
So if I understand my mistake the right answers should be
(a) 0.97 m^{2}
(b) -1.19 m^{2}
(c) -1.90 m^{2}
(d) 2.34 m^{2}
(e) 73.3°

or have I veered way of again?
 
Ursa said:
So if I understand my mistake the right answers should be
(a) 0.97 m^{2}
(b) -1.19 m^{2}
(c) -1.90 m^{2}
(d) 2.34 m^{2}
(e) 73.3°

or have I veered way of again?
That's not what I get.
 
Your answer to (a) is incorrect. That means that your vectors ##\vec a## and/or ##\vec b## are incorrect. What did you change? How about posting them as you did before?
 
... why not just post the components of your two vectors and get those right before going any further.
 
These are the components I came up with

##a_y =2.60 sin 63.0 = 2.32## ##a_x=0## ##a_z =2.60 cos 63.0 = 1.18##

##b_y=0## ##b_x =1.30 sin 51.0 = 1.01## ##b_z =1.3 cos 51.0 = 0.82##
 
Ursa said:
These are the components I came up with

##a_y =2.60 sin 63.0 = 2.32## ##a_x=0## ##a_z =2.60 cos 63.0 = 1.18##

##b_y=0## ##b_x =1.30 sin 51.0 = 1.01## ##b_z =1.3 cos 51.0 = 0.82##
You have sines and cosines mixed up.
 
Ursa said:
These are the components I came up with

##a_y =2.60 sin 63.0 = 2.32## ##a_x=0## ##a_z =2.60 cos 63.0 = 1.18##

##b_y=0## ##b_x =1.30 sin 51.0 = 1.01## ##b_z =1.3 cos 51.0 = 0.82##
See post #2.
 
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