Vectors: why is the cosine of this angle always -1/2?

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The discussion revolves around finding the angle between two vectors, v = (x, y, z) and w = (z, x, y), given that x + y + z = 0. The challenge is to explain why the cosine of the angle between these vectors, calculated as v·w/|v||w|, is always -1/2. The user attempts to solve this by analyzing the components and recognizes that the numerator will be less than the denominator due to the presence of negative components. A key insight is that the expression simplifies to zero when expanded, leading to the conclusion about the angle. The conversation also touches on the geometric and physical interpretations of this relationship.
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Homework Statement


Pick any numbers that add to x + y + z = 0. Find the angle between your vector v = (x, y, z) and the vector w = ( z, x, y). Challenge question: explain why v.w/|v||w| is always -1/2.

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I chose (1, -2, 1) for the first part, which is straightforward. The second bit has me somewhat flummoxed. Using x, y, and z, I get:
(xz + xy + yz)/(x^2 + y^2 + z^2)
I can see that the numerator will always be less than the denominator because either one or two of the components must be negative. The explanation proper eludes me though, and I feel missing something simple here. Please assist me in understanding this one.
 
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What is (x+y+z)^2?

Edit: There is also a geometrical interpretation, but we can leave that until you understand why the equality holds.
 
Orodruin said:
What is (x+y+z)^2?

Edit: There is also a geometrical interpretation, but we can leave that until you understand why the equality holds.
(xz + xy + yz)/(x^2 + y^2 + z^2) = -1/2 as a result of multiplying out the expression, which is equal to zero. I knew it was staring me in the face.
 
V scalar w /|v| ×| w |= |v| ×| w | cos ß / |v| ×|w| = cos ß
so you should find some kind of relationship between those vector in order to get ß = π -60° / π + 60°
Thats all i can think of.
 
You need to answer Orodruin's question in post #2. Once you see the answer to this question, you will know what to do next.

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I believe the OP has already completed thid problem.
 
how can we (a) Geometrically and (b) Physically(in real life application) interpret the equation ?
 
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