Velocity in relation to position

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A hot-air balloon rises at a constant speed of 1.8 m/s, and a passenger is 3.1 meters above a friend who tosses a camera upward. The initial speed of the camera must be calculated to ensure it reaches the passenger. The discussion highlights confusion regarding the correct application of kinematic equations, particularly mixing velocity and acceleration. It suggests expressing the balloon's and camera's altitudes as functions of time to find the necessary initial speed for the camera. This approach emphasizes the importance of correctly defining variables and using appropriate formulas for the problem.
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A hot-air balloon has just lifted off and is rising at the constant rate of 1.8 . Suddenly one of the passengers realizes she has left her camera on the ground. A friend picks it up and tosses it straight upward. If the passenger is 3.1 above her friend when the camera is tossed, what is the minimum initial speed of the camera if it is to just reach the passenger? (Hint: When the camera is thrown with its minimum speed, its speed on reaching the passenger is the same as the speed of the passenger.)


I tried to use V^2=Vi^2 + 2aΔX to solve for Vi
I plugged in (1.8)^2=Vi^2 +2(-9.8)3.1
and got Vi=8m/s but that answer is wrong. Where did I go wrong?
 
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destinc said:
A hot-air balloon has just lifted off and is rising at the constant rate of 1.8 . Suddenly one of the passengers realizes she has left her camera on the ground. A friend picks it up and tosses it straight upward. If the passenger is 3.1 above her friend when the camera is tossed, what is the minimum initial speed of the camera if it is to just reach the passenger? (Hint: When the camera is thrown with its minimum speed, its speed on reaching the passenger is the same as the speed of the passenger.)

I tried to use V^2=Vi^2 + 2aΔX to solve for Vi
I plugged in (1.8)^2=Vi^2 +2(-9.8)3.1
and got Vi=8m/s but that answer is wrong. Where did I go wrong?
First of all, you need some units on the given data.

Then, "rising at the constant rate of 1.8" could mean a constant velocity, or a constant acceleration. Again, units would help clear up this ambiguity.
 
sorry, balloon is rising at constant rate of 1.8m/s.
balloon height is 3.1m.
for the formula I used (1.8m/s)^2=Vi + 2(-9.8m/s^2)3.1m
 
destinc said:
sorry, balloon is rising at constant rate of 1.8m/s.
balloon height is 3.1m.
for the formula I used (1.8m/s)^2=Vi + 2(-9.8m/s^2)3.1m
You are mixing the velocity and altitude of the balloon with the acceleration of the camera. Also vi should be squared in this formula. Beside that, I doubt that this kinematic equation is the most helpful in solving this problem.

Express the altitude of the balloon as a function of time, t, where t = 0 seconds at the moment at which the balloon's altitude was 3.1 m, which is also the moment the camera was tossed up .

Express the altitude of the camera as a function of time, t .

Equate the two & solve for t. The result will depend on the initial velocity of the camera.
 
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