Velocity of an object on an inclined plane

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The discussion revolves around calculating the velocity of an object on an inclined plane using the work-energy theorem. The user initially derived an incorrect expression for velocity and sought clarification on their mistake, which resulted in a value of 10/6 instead of the correct 10/3. Participants pointed out that the user failed to properly account for the variable friction force while integrating. After realizing the oversight and integrating correctly, the user obtained the correct answer. The conversation emphasizes the importance of accurately incorporating forces in physics problems.
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Homework Statement
A body starts from rest on a long incline plane of slope 45 degree the coefficient of friction between the body and the plane varies as u=0.3x where x is the distance traveled down the plane the body will have maximum speed when x is
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Work energy theorem
I used work energy theorem between initial top point and point x along the incline(downwards) i got the expression of v then diffrentiated it to get a maxima but it gives me a wrong ans which is 10/6 but the actual ans is 10/3 please tell me what i did wrong
 

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Prabs3257 said:
Homework Statement:: A body starts from rest on a long incline plane of slope 45 degree the coefficient of friction between the body and the plane varies as u=0.3x where x is the distance traveled down the plane the body will have maximum speed when x is
Homework Equations:: Work energy theorem

I used work energy theorem between initial top point and point x along the incline(downwards) i got the expression of v then diffrentiated it to get a maxima but it gives me a wrong ans which is 10/6 but the actual ans is 10/3 please tell me what i did wrong

There is a simple approach to this problem. Hint: what can you say about the forces when the body reaches its maximum speed?
 
PeroK said:
There is a simple approach to this problem. Hint: what can you say about the forces when the body reaches its maximum speed?
Ya i first did it using forces only and got the correct answer but i want to know what i did wrong with this
 
Prabs3257 said:
Ya i first did it using forces only and got the correct answer but i want to know what i did wrong with this

You'd need to post your working. I'm not sure if it's worth it, though.
 
PeroK said:
You'd need to post your working. I'm not sure if it's worth it, though.
I did post an img of it in the ques
 
Prabs3257 said:
I did post an img of it in the ques
There's almost no working there at all. You have an expression for ##v(x)## that you haven't justified. Did you integrate the friction force down the slope?

PS It looks like you just mixed up a factor of ##\sqrt 2## at some point.
 
Prabs3257 said:
I did post an img of it in the ques

Here's a neat trick. Maximising ##v## is the same as maximising ##v^2##. That makes the differentiation easier.
 
PeroK said:
There's almost no working there at all. You have a very simple expression for ##v(x)## that you haven't justified and is wrong in any case. Did you integrate the friction force down the slope?
Oh sorry i just forgot f was not constant and i integrated it now and got the correct ans thanks
 
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