Venn Diagram Car Park Problem: L-plates & GB-plates Explained

  • Thread starter Thread starter Natasha1
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Diagram Venn
AI Thread Summary
In a car park with 25 cars, 5 have L-plates, 12 have GB-plates, and 12 have neither. The discussion revolves around determining how many cars have only L-plates and how many have both L and GB-plates. The correct breakdown concludes that 1 car has an L-plate but not a GB-plate, while 4 cars have both L and GB-plates. The remaining cars without plates total 12, confirming the calculations align with the total number of cars. The final answers were validated by participants in the discussion.
Natasha1
Messages
494
Reaction score
9

Homework Statement


In a car park there are 25 cars, 5 have L-plates, 12 have GB-plates and 12 have neither.
1) How many have an L-plate but not a GB-plate?
2) How many have a GB-plate and an L-plate?

Homework Equations


None here really

The Attempt at a Solution


I got four different drawings each with two venn diagrams.

L-plate =2
Both L and GB-plate = 3
GB-plate = 9

L-plate =1
Both L and GB-plate = 4
GB-plate = 8

L-plate =3
Both L and GB-plate = 2
GB-plate = 10

L-plate =4
Both L and GB-plate = 1
GB-plate = 11

Where am I going wrong?

1) How many have an L-plate but not a GB-plate?
it could be 2, 1, 3 or 4 ?? Not sure which one and why?

2) How many have a GB-plate and an L-plate?
it could be 3, 4, 2 or 1 ?? Not sure which one and why?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Natasha1 said:

Homework Statement


In a car park there are 25 cars, 5 have L-plates, 12 have GB-plates and 12 have neither.
1) How many have an L-plate but not a GB-plate?
2) How many have a GB-plate and an L-plate?

Homework Equations


None here really

The Attempt at a Solution


I got four different drawings each with two venn diagrams.
L-plate =2
Both L and GB-plate = 3
GB-plate = 9
That leaves how many cars without tags?
L-plate =1
Both L and GB-plate = 4
GB-plate = 8
That leaves how many cars without tags?
L-plate =3
Both L and GB-plate = 2
GB-plate = 10
That leaves how many cars without tags?
L-plate =4
Both L and GB-plate = 1
GB-plate = 11
That leaves how many cars without tags?
Where am I going wrong?

1) How many have an L-plate but not a GB-plate?
it could be 2, 1, 3 or 4 ?? Not sure which one and why?

2) How many have a GB-plate and an L-plate?
it could be 3, 4, 2 or 1 ?? Not sure which one and why?
Some of your drawings of Venn diagrams must be incorrect
 
Natasha1 said:

Homework Statement


In a car park there are 25 cars, 5 have L-plates, 12 have GB-plates and 12 have neither.
1) How many have an L-plate but not a GB-plate?
2) How many have a GB-plate and an L-plate?

Start with the 'neithers' -- they're the easiest, no confusion. Place them outside your Venn diagram.
That leaves 13 cars; your three remaining figures should add to 13.
 
Last edited:
I think I've got it... It must be

L-plate =1
Both L and GB-plate = 4
GB-plate = 8
Neither plates (outside both Venn diagrams) = 12
As the total is 13 (total of L-plates, GB-plates or both must = 13)

1) How many have an L-plate but not a GB-plate?
Is 1
2) How many have a GB-plate and an L-plate?
Is 4

Could someone please check and let me know if it's right? Many thanks :)
 
Natasha1 said:
Could someone please check and let me know if it's right? Many thanks :)

Bingo :)
 
  • Like
Likes Natasha1
Many thanks :)
 
I tried to combine those 2 formulas but it didn't work. I tried using another case where there are 2 red balls and 2 blue balls only so when combining the formula I got ##\frac{(4-1)!}{2!2!}=\frac{3}{2}## which does not make sense. Is there any formula to calculate cyclic permutation of identical objects or I have to do it by listing all the possibilities? Thanks
Back
Top