Verification for Net Force and Vectors?

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The discussion revolves around homework questions related to net force and vector diagrams. The original poster struggles with a force diagram where the East and North forces are incorrectly labeled, leading to confusion about angles. Corrections are suggested, including the use of complementary angles and the proper application of trigonometric functions, specifically the tangent inverse. After several iterations and clarifications, the poster successfully recalculates the angle and resolves the diagram issue. The conversation highlights the importance of accurate diagram representation and the correct application of trigonometric principles in physics problems.
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Hello everyone! I was given the following three questions in my homework, and I had a lot of trouble with them, so I was hoping someone could look them over! If you could just check out my pictures and say "yeah its awesome!" or "nope... [insert helpful answer here]" that would be GREAT. Thanks so much!
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In 38, I do not understand the second hand-drawn force diagram. You have drawn the E force as N and the N force as E, leading to the wrong angle.

In 39, you end with "N 50 E", but no applied forces have a component to the E.

I haven't checked the numerics in detail, but they all look about right.
 
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Hello meester, :welcome:

Check your ##\sin 35^\circ##
[edit] no need. But still:

Read the guidelines and don't erase the template.
 
haruspex said:
In 38, I do not understand the second hand-drawn force diagram. You have drawn the E force as N and the N force as E, leading to the wrong angle.

In 39, you end with "N 50 E", but no applied forces have a component to the E.

I haven't checked the numerics in detail, but they all look about right.

Thank you! I have adjusted the trig in question 38 and now have a final answer of 32.9 N [N 3 degrees E]. I will redraw the diagram. As for 39, that was a good catch. I guess you could probably tell I did this when I was tired... Thanks again!
 
Meeeessttteeehh said:
N 3 degrees E
I was expecting you would just get the complement, making it N 72°E.
 
haruspex said:
I was expecting you would just get the complement, making it N 72°E.

could you define complement? I'm not sure I understand.
 
Meeeessttteeehh said:
could you define complement? I'm not sure I understand.
In your original solution you got the N and E net forces swapped around, producing a resultant 18 degrees E of N. Correcting them should give you the complementary angle (90-θ), i.e 18 degrees N of E, or 72 degrees E of N.
 
haruspex said:
In your original solution you got the N and E net forces swapped around, producing a resultant 18 degrees E of N. Correcting them should give you the complementary angle (90-θ), i.e 18 degrees N of E, or 72 degrees E of N.

Sorry, but I still don't understand. I've been taught that when using the decomposition method I use trig to find theta. I swapped my values so they might be correct, and used tan to determine 3.0505 as theta, and I am not sure where I have gone wrong... Here is my updated picture
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Meeeessttteeehh said:
Sorry, but I still don't understand. I've been taught that when using the decomposition method I use trig to find theta. I swapped my values so they might be correct, and used tan to determine 3.0505 as theta, and I am not sure where I have gone wrong... Here is my updated picture
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Isn't 3.0505 just the ratio of the sides? You need to apply tan-1 to that.
 
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haruspex said:
Isn't 3.0505 just the ratio of the sides? You need to apply tan-1 to that.

OH MY GOODESS. I just got the E 18 degrees N after drawing a million more triangles (more like 8 but still), but I can't believe I forgot the tan inverse. THANK YOU SO MUCH!
 
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