Voltmeter reading in a parallel circuit with two batteries

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Homework Statement


In the circuit below the batteries have negligible internal resistance and the voltmeter V has a very high resistance. What would be the reading of the voltmeter?

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Answer: 9.6 V.

2. The attempt at a solution
I used the Kirchhoff's rule: the current that flows from 10 V is I1, current that flows to the voltmeter is (I1 - I3) and the current that flows into the 8 V is I3. So I got 10 - 8 = 4 I3 + 1 I1 and 10 = RV (I1 - I3) + 1 I1. But this doesn't look like it can be solved. We have R which I don't what to do with it. Any ideas please?
 
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The voltmeter has a high resistance (ideally infinite resistance) so it passes no current. What does that tell you about the relationship between ##I_1## and ##I_3##?
 
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gneill said:
The voltmeter has a high resistance (ideally infinite resistance) so it passes no current. What does that tell you about the relationship between ##I_1## and ##I_3##?
That I1 - I3 = 0?

I also calculated: I = V / R = 10 / 1 = 10 A and so V1 = 10 * 1 = 10 V and I = 8 / 4 = 2 A, so V2 = 8 V.
 
moenste said:
That I1 - I3 = 0?
Sure, or in other words, ##I_1 = I_3##. So there's really only one current:
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I also calculated: I = V / R = 10 / 1 = 10 A and so V1 = 10 * 1 = 10 V and I = 8 / 4 = 2 A, so V2 = 8 V.
No, you need to take the entire loop into consideration in order to determine the current. Write KVL around the loop and solve for the current.
 
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gneill said:
Sure, or in other words, ##I_1 = I_3##. So there's really only one current:
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No, you need to take the entire loop into consideration in order to determine the current. Write KVL around the loop and solve for the current.
Don't we get 10 - 8 = 4 * I + 1 * I → 2 = 5 * I → I = 0.4 A?
 
moenste said:
Don't we get 10 - 8 = 4 * I + 1 * I → 2 = 5 * I → I = 0.4 A?
Looks good.
 
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gneill said:
Looks good.
And then we have V = I R + 0.4 * 1 = 0.4 V or 0.4 * 4 = 1.6 V. And then either 10 - 0.4 = 9.6 V or 8 + 1.6 = 9.6 V. Should be correct.