Want to study nano-particles in Germany, Ph.D. or a second Master?

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The discussion centers on seeking a Ph.D. position in Germany after completing a Master's program in China, with a focus on research involving nano-particles in optical devices. The individual is considering two main options: applying for another Master's program to build connections or directly applying to a structural Ph.D. program. It is suggested that contacting professors before applying can enhance the application process, making the applicant stand out. While pursuing a second Master's is an option, it is generally advised against, given the existing qualifications and research experience. The individual expresses concern about limited information without an on-site visit but is encouraged to explore Ph.D. job advertisements and study relevant projects before reaching out to professors. The discussion emphasizes the importance of researching potential groups and suggests that a brief visit to Germany could be more beneficial than committing to a lengthy program.
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Hello,

I have completed a Master program in China, during which, I joined in a project applying nano-particles in optical device. The project motivated me to study optical property of nano-particles, and I am looking for a Ph.D. position in Germany. The problem is: how do I get known with my potential research group since I have no way to visit there? Two thoughts came to my mind:

A.
Before entering Ph.D, I apply to an international Master program in Germany, such as MAOT.

http://www.aot.uni-erlangen.de/maot/home.html

During the Master, I may get known with the people and research their. But I have already got a Master’s in China. Will I be rejected for this?

B.
I apply to a so-called structural Ph.D. program directly, such as In that case, do I need to contact a professor before making an application?

Are there any recommendation?​
 
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I would look for PhD programs and ask the professors/contact persons - you do not have to do that (you can directly send an application - why not?), but usually this is a good idea. It can help to make the application better, and you are more than a random applicant then.

A second master is possible I guess, but I would avoid it - you have a MSc and research experience in the right field, that should be qualification enough for a PhD position.
 
mfb said:
I would look for PhD programs and ask the professors/contact persons - you do not have to do that (you can directly send an application - why not?), but usually this is a good idea. It can help to make the application better, and you are more than a random applicant then.

A second master is possible I guess, but I would avoid it - you have a MSc and research experience in the right field, that should be qualification enough for a PhD position.

Hello, mfb

Thank you so much for your advice. I found a Ph.D. student job advertisement that I may be interested in, and I plan to study on the project first and then contact the corresponding professor. Is that seemed a good way I could have a taste of the research before I come here? However, I am still worrying about the limited information I could get without an on-site visit. With that said, if I would like to attend a Master program in Germany and the main purpose is to find a research group that is suitable for me, what kind of program would you recommend?
 
Tekk said:
Is that seemed a good way I could have a taste of the research before I come here?
I certainly does not harm to know the topics they are working on.
Tekk said:
However, I am still worrying about the limited information I could get without an on-site visit.
An on-site visit is certainly interesting, but do you want to plan 2 years for that? Visiting Germany for a week would be cheaper than visiting it for 2 years.
Tekk said:
what kind of program would you recommend?
No idea, I don't know nano-particles groups.
 
mfb said:
I certainly does not harm to know the topics they are working on.
An on-site visit is certainly interesting, but do you want to plan 2 years for that? Visiting Germany for a week would be cheaper than visiting it for 2 years.
No idea, I don't know nano-particles groups.

Your reply is very helpful to me. Thank you!
 
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