Wave Interference and Polarization

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around wave interference and polarization, specifically examining the amplitude of waves under different polarization conditions and their interference patterns. Participants explore concepts related to constructive and destructive interference in the context of electromagnetic waves (EMW) and the double slit experiment.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that for two identical waves with perpendicular propagation directions, the amplitude at the point of constructive interference would be 2A for one case and A√2 for another, questioning the treatment of constructive interference in the double slit experiment.
  • Another participant agrees with the amplitude values but contests the use of the term "constructive interference" for the second example, suggesting that constructive interference should only apply when waves are polarized in the same direction.
  • A later reply acknowledges the confusion in terminology and clarifies that the amplitude in the second case should range from A to A√2, indicating that destructive interference cannot occur in this scenario.
  • Participants discuss the consideration of angles between waves in the context of EMWs, questioning why the angle is often ignored in the double slit experiment when calculating phase shifts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the amplitude calculations but disagree on the classification of interference as constructive or not based on polarization. The discussion regarding the treatment of angles in the double slit experiment remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the definitions of constructive and destructive interference as they relate to polarization. The discussion also highlights potential assumptions about the significance of angles in interference patterns.

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I'm studying wave interference and having trouble to understand some concepts. I would like to ask what would happen in the 2 situations below

Image 1


Image 2


Both waves are identical, have the same frequency, amplitude and velocity. They are polarized on the direction shown (first one oscilates going out of the screen, second one on the plane of the screen). At the red circle they interfere construtively (that means A.Cos(...) are equal). The waves have perpendicular propagation directions. What will be the amplitude on the red points?

I would say 2A for the first image and A √2 for the second. Is it right?

I'm asking because on the slit experiment (OEM interference) my book (and everybody) seems to treat constructive interference as 2A, ignoring the angle between the waves. Why is that?
 
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You're correct about the amplitudes. But I would not consider the second example to be constructive interference, I only associate that term if the waves are polarized in the same direction.

Or put another way, try to imagine setting up destructive interference (amplitude is zero) for your plane-polarized example. It can't be done.

Hope that helps.
 
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I helps :)

try to imagine setting up destructive interference

You are right, I used "constructive" because I didn't have other world to use. The amplitude should range from A to A√2, so there will never be a destructive interference.

In the previous post I wrote OEM where I should have written EMW (in portuguese "onda elétromagnética), in english "electromagnetic wave"), sorry for that

Now come the second question. For the second wave we had to consider the angle between them because the wave was oscilating on the plave of the screen. An EMW has 2 fields (electic and magnetic) that are perpendicular to each other, so there will always be a component of one (or both) fields that will be on the plane of the screen. So in the double slit experiment, why they ignore the angle between the waves when they find the phase shift? Is it because the angle is too small?
 
Yes, exactly.

(Sorry about the delay in responding.)
 

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