Wave on a string tied to a weight

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To determine the time it takes for a wave to travel along a 17 m string with a weight of 13 kg tied to a 13 kg mass, the wave speed formula v = (T/u)^(1/2) is used, where T is tension and u is mass per unit length. The tension at any point y in the string is equal to the weight of the mass below that point, leading to the expression T = (13 + 13y/17)kg * g. The correct approach involves calculating the mass per unit length and integrating the wave speed to find the total time. Clarification is needed on the derivation of the wave speed expression and the correct value for g, which is given as 10 m/s^2. The discussion emphasizes the importance of accurately applying the physics principles to solve the problem.
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Homework Statement


A 17 m string of weight 13kg is tied to the ceiling at its upper end, and the lower is tied to a weight of 13 kg. how long will it take a wave to get from one end to the next? (g=10 m/s^2)


Homework Equations


v = (T/u)^(1/2)


The Attempt at a Solution


well, i think mass(y)=(13+13y/17)kg
therefor T=ma= (13+13y/17)kg*19m/(s^2)
V(y)=(T/u)^(1/2)=>> (10y)^1/2

beyond this point I'm stuck. Thanks in advance.
 
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Issacros said:
well, i think mass(y)=(13+13y/17)kg
OK, this is the total mass for all points below y (measured from the bottom of the string).
therefor T=ma= (13+13y/17)kg*19m/(s^2)
Where did you get 19 m/s^2? The tension at point y is equal to the weight of the mass below that point.
V(y)=(T/u)^(1/2)=>> (10y)^1/2
Not sure where this last expression came from. Use the correct expression for T(y).

Hint:
V(y) = (T/μ)^(1/2)
dy/dt = (T/μ)^(1/2)

Rearrange and integrate to find the total time.
 
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