Wave Packet Expansion Homework - Understand Abbreviations

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The text states:
"Let us consider a wave packet whose Fourier inverse ##\phi (\vec{k})## is appreciably different from zero only in a limited range ##\Delta \vec{k}## near the mean wave vector ##\hbar \vec{\bar{k}} ##. In coordinate space, the wave packet ##\psi(\vec{r}, t)## must move approximately like a classical free particle with mean momentum ##\hbar \vec{\bar{k}}##. To see this behavior we expand ##\omega (\vec{k})## about ##\vec{\bar{k}}##:

## \omega (\vec{k}) = \omega(\vec{\bar{k}}) + (\vec{k} - \vec{\bar{k}}) \cdot (\vec{\nabla_k} \omega)_{k= \vec{\bar{k}}} + ...##

##=\bar{\omega} + (\vec{k} - \vec{\bar{k}})\cdot \vec{\nabla_{\bar{k}}} \bar{\omega} +... ## with obvious abbreviations"

I'm afraid not much of the above is obvious to me ... have searched all over but no progress ... please help me understand -

What expansion are they using and where do they get it from?
What are the abbreviations mentioned?
 
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A multivariable Taylor expansion has been used.

##\omega \left( \bar{k} \right)## has been abbreviated to ##\bar{\omega}##.
 
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George Jones said:
A multivariable Taylor expansion has been used.
##\omega \left( \bar{k} \right)## has been abbreviated to ##\bar{\omega}##.
Thanks George, a couple of things still puzzle me:
1. what is the 2nd variable? Is it ##\vec{\bar{k}}## ... how can they expand about a variable (##\vec{\bar{k}}##) if it is?
2. the text talks earlier about the width/spread of the wave packet as ##k_x - \bar{k}##, shouldn't that be ##|k_x - \bar{k}|## to keep both sides positive? (its a length)
 
ognik said:
1. what is the 2nd variable? Is it ##\vec{\bar{k}}## ...

No.

If you post the Taylor expansion of a function of three variables in the form that appears in a calculus text, then we can discuss how the form in the original post is exactly the same.
 
Thanks, I'm assuming we are talking about 2 variables, then the expansion is:

## f(x,y,z) = f(a,b,c) + (x-a)f_x(a,b,c) + (y-b)f_y(a,b,c) + (z-c)f_z(a,b,c) + \frac{1}{2!} ## [quadratic and higher terms - which are ignored bu the text]
 
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ognik said:
Thanks, I'm assuming we are talking about 2 variables

No, three variables are needed. Don't worry about retyping the expansion.

One more thing: Are you familiar with vector calculus and the gradient, divergence, and curl operations?
 
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Thanks George, Edited original, and am familiar with those operators
 
The three variables ##x##, ##y##, and ##z## can be thought of as comprising one vector, i.e., ##\vec{r} = \left( x,y,z \right)## and ##\vec{r_0} = \left( a,b,c \right)##. Then ##f\left( x,y,z \right)## and ##f\left( a,b,c \right)## become ##f \left(\vec{r}\right)## and ##f \left(\vec{r_0}\right)##.

Also, ##\vec{r} - \vec{r_0} = \left( x - a,y-b,z-c \right)## and the gradient of ##f## evaluated (gradient first, then evaluation) at ##\vec{r_0} = \left( a,b,c \right)## is the vector

$$\left(\nabla f\right)_{\vec{r_0}} = \left( f_x \left( a,b,c \right), f_y \left( a,b,c \right), f_z \left( a,b,c \right) \right).$$

Consequently,

$$\left( \vec{r} - \vec{r_0} \right) \cdot \left(\nabla f\right)_{\vec{r_0}} = \left(x - a\right) f_x \left( a,b,c \right) + \left(y - b\right) f_y \left( a,b,c \right) +\left(z - c\right) f_z \left( a,b,c \right), $$

and, in new mod attire, the Taylor expansion for ##f## that you posted becomes

$$f \left(\vec{r}\right) = f \left(\vec{r_0}\right) + \left( \vec{r} - \vec{r_0} \right) \cdot \left(\nabla f\right)_{\vec{r_0}} + ...$$

If anything in the above is unclear, let me know.
 
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Very helpful, thanks George, the chapter is now clear to me - I had been thinking only in 1-D along the x-axis
 
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afterthought question please, is my notation correct when I wrote ## \vec{\bar{k}} ## ? Or should it be ## \bar{\vec{k}} ## or something else?
 
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Apologies, spoke too soon.
The text has a common Fourier transform equation ## \psi (\vec{r},t) = \frac{1}{(2 \pi)^{\frac{3}{2}}} \int \phi (\vec{k}) e^{i(\vec{k} \cdot \vec{r} - \omega t)} d^3k ##
They substitute ## \omega(\vec{k})=\bar{\omega} + (\vec{k} - \vec{\bar{k}})\cdot \vec{\nabla_{\bar{k}}} \bar{\omega} +... ## into the above, and get a result I can't get - ## \psi (\vec{r},t) = exp(-i \bar{\omega}t + i \bar{\vec{k}} \cdot \nabla_{\bar{k}} \bar{\omega}t) \psi(\vec{r} - \nabla_{\bar{k}}t, 0) ##

I instead get as far as ## \frac{e^{-i \bar{\omega}t}} {(2 \pi)^\frac{3}{2}} \int \phi(\vec{k}) e^{i (\vec{k} \cdot \vec{r} - \vec{k}
\nabla_{\bar{k}} \bar{\omega}t + \bar{k} {\nabla}_{\bar{k}} \bar{\omega}t) } d^3k ##

Could you help me bridge that gap please?
 
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I have reviewed this and made more progress, still can't quite see all of it.
If I extract ## exp(-i \bar{\omega}t + i \bar{\vec{k}} \cdot \nabla_{\bar{k}} \bar{\omega}t) ## I am left with something close to the original FT, except it looks like

## \frac{1}{(2 \pi)^{\frac{3}{2}}} \int \phi (\vec{k}) e^{i(\vec{k} \cdot \vec{r} - \vec{k}\nabla_{\bar{k}} \bar{\omega}t)} d^3k ##

The text says this latter ## = \psi(\vec{r} - \nabla_{\bar{k}} \bar{\omega}t, 0) ## - but the ## \vec{k} ## wasn't dotted with the ## \nabla ## term?

Also they set t=0, but then leave the t in the ## \nabla ## term?

Please try and explain this to me? Thanks
 
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ognik said:
I have reviewed this and made more progress, still can't quite see all of it.
If I extract ## exp(-i \bar{\omega}t + i \bar{\vec{k}} \cdot \nabla_{\bar{k}} \bar{\omega}t) ## I am left with something close to the original FT, except it looks like

## \frac{1}{(2 \pi)^{\frac{3}{2}}} \int \phi (\vec{k}) e^{i(\vec{k} \cdot \vec{r} - \vec{k}\nabla_{\bar{k}} \bar{\omega}t)} d^3k ##

The text says this latter ## = \psi(\vec{r} - \nabla_{\bar{k}} \bar{\omega}t, 0) ## - but the ## \vec{k} ## wasn't dotted with the ## \nabla ## term?

Also they set t=0, but then leave the t in the ## \nabla ## term?

Please try and explain this to me? Thanks
So, you have
$$
\exp(-i \bar{\omega}t + i \bar{\vec{k}} \cdot \nabla_{\bar{k}} \bar{\omega}t)
\frac{1}{(2 \pi)^{\frac{3}{2}}} \int \phi (\vec{k}) e^{i(\vec{k} \cdot \vec{r} - \vec{k}\cdot \nabla_{\bar{k}} \bar{\omega}t)} d^3k
$$
Note that ##\vec{k}## is dotted with ##\nabla_{\bar{k}} \bar{\omega}## in the integrand. The integral can further be written as
$$
\int \phi (\vec{k}) e^{i\vec{k}\cdot(\vec{r} - \nabla_{\bar{k}} \bar{\omega}t)} d^3k
$$
At the same time you have the Fourier transform equation
$$
\psi (\vec{r},t) = \frac{1}{(2 \pi)^{\frac{3}{2}}} \int \phi (\vec{k}) e^{i(\vec{k} \cdot \vec{r} - \omega t)} d^3k
$$
If, in the above equation, you replace ##\vec{r}## with ##\vec{r} - \nabla_{\bar{k}} \bar{\omega}t## and ##t## with ##0##, you should see that
$$
\int \phi (\vec{k}) e^{i\vec{k}\cdot(\vec{r} - \nabla_{\bar{k}} \bar{\omega}t)} d^3k = \psi (\vec{r} - \nabla_{\bar{k}} \bar{\omega}t,0).
$$
 
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Thanks blue_leaf.

1. Why can we set the t in (r, t) to 0, but leave the t in ##\Delta_{\bar{k}} \bar{\omega}t ## ?

2. is my notation correct when I wrote ## \vec{\bar{k}} ## ? Or should it be ## \bar{\vec{k}} ##, or something else?
 
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ognik said:
1. Why can we set the t in (r, t) to 0, but leave the t in Δ¯k¯ωtΔk¯ω¯t\Delta_{\bar{k}} \bar{\omega}t ?
You are simply comparing
$$
\int \phi (\vec{k}) e^{i\vec{k}\cdot(\vec{r} - \nabla_{\bar{k}} \bar{\omega}t)} e^{-i\omega (0)}d^3k
$$
with
$$
\int \phi (\vec{k}) e^{i\vec{k} \cdot \vec{r}} e^{-i\omega t} d^3k
$$
ognik said:
2. is my notation correct when I wrote ⃗¯kk¯→ \vec{\bar{k}} ? Or should it be ¯⃗kk→¯ \bar{\vec{k}} , or something else?
I don't know if that really matters, but I personally would use the second one.
 
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