Ways of powering vehicle that is not electricty or combustion.

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The discussion explores alternative methods for powering a small vehicle without electricity, combustion, or solid rockets. Suggestions include using compressed air, CO2, and chemical reactions, with a focus on utilizing pressurized paintball tanks for propulsion. Additionally, ideas like energy storage in rubber bands or springs are proposed, as they can effectively convert stored energy into movement. Historical examples of using nitrous oxide for propulsion and the potential of using animals for power are also mentioned. The conversation emphasizes the importance of exploring creative, non-traditional power sources for the engineering project.
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As part of my introductory engineering class this year, I have to work with a group to build a small vehicle (no bigger that 2ftx2ftx3ft) that can carry some water up to 250 ft. However, we cannot use any electricity, anything flammable or solid rockets. So right now I'm at a loss as to how to give this thing enough power to carry 1/2 lb. of water 100 ft. (my goal right now).

Compressed air, CO2, and chemical reactions are fine, but I haven't found any good resources on how to make use of any of those for a car type thing that needs to carry something.

Any ideas or resources I could look into?
 
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HyperSniper said:
Compressed air, CO2, and chemical reactions are fine, but I haven't found any good resources on how to make use of any of those for a car type thing that needs to carry something.

Compressed air can be vented into cylinders like an internal combustion engine. You could start by looking at how http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/new_cars/4251491.html do it...
 
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Or, on a more reasonable, if "old-fashioned" note, horses, mules or oxen pulling the vehicle.
 
You should try to find someone that paint ball's. Paintball air tanks can be pressurized to 4500 psi safely and hold easily 70cu. Take two of these puppies and hook up a cheap home depot regulator and you have enough air to power a pneumatic tool like a sander or grinder. You could even use the exhaust of the first unit to power a smaller one. Add some pulleys and belts to the mix and you'll be all set.
 
Forget the pneumatic tools. Just turn that paint ball cylinder into a jet.
 

give this thing enough power to carry 1/2 lb. of water 100 ft. (my goal right now).

When I was an elementary student, we used 'Nitrous Oxide gas pellets' to launch homemade model rockets, suspended on a string, horizontally across the school lawn. And when I was a Boy Scout, we used them to launch toy model race cars down a curved ramp.

A 'cracker' is used to punch a hole in the nozzle.

Good memories, and a lot of fun!. . . I wonder what motivated me into physics anyway?
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What are the exact words used? Diesel oil isn't flammable under normal conditions... Nor is vegetable oil, and though many Diesel engines run very well on vegetable oil.

You could even end up to concentrated H2O2. Not exactly flammable, but high energy contents, and pretty much dangerous (huge boom with no good reason). Was used as a monopropellant for rockets, still used for torpedoes.

--------- OK, without cheating then:

For simplicity, I would store energy in rubber. Natural rubber stores more energy per kg and per dm3 than steel springs do, this energy is easily converted in a movement, and force/displacements adapt more easily to a vehicle.

Beware most synthetic rubbers (especially polyurethane) are slow and don't give all the energy back - they creep a lot. And beware no rubber is reproducible nor predictible.

As a child I built dragsters with Lego and rubber bands. Fun. Damned fast. Now Lego sells some, of course not as good as mines. I just pulled the rubber by winding it around the axle, but twisting it as in a toy plane would work for a longer distance.
 
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