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A high school student seeking to enter nuclear and particle physics is looking for quality book recommendations. Suggested readings include "Smashing Physics" by Jon Butterworth and "The Higgs Boson and Beyond" from The Great Courses, which provide a broad understanding of the standard model with limited math. For more academic texts, "Introductory Nuclear Physics" by Krane and "Particles and Nuclei" by Povh et al. are recommended, along with "Elementary Particle Physics" by Nachtmann for a deeper dive into the Standard Model. The discussion emphasizes the importance of problem-solving in understanding physics concepts rather than just reading textbooks. Overall, engaging with challenging material early on is encouraged, alongside practical problem-solving experience.
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I'm a high school student and I want to get into nuclear and particle physics. So, I would like some suggestions on good quality books on the topic.
If it helps to know, I have self-studied mechanics (D. Morin), electromagnetism (Purcell and Morin), thermodynamics (Sears and Zemanski), but I did not yet studied relativity and waves (I know something about then, but I did not them "mathematically").
 
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I can recommend two books I've just read - they're classed as "popular science" and there's limited maths; but they both build up a broad understanding of the standard model and are written by individuals active in particle physics research at Cern and directly involved in the Higgs discovery. They cover the particles (spoiler: there aren't any really :nb)), the gauge bosons and the Higgs boson (and why that isn't a gauge boson), and they also touch on super-symmetry and other models beyond the standard model. They're pretty heavy in places, but fabulously readable - don't let the "popular science" tag put you off, these are good solid reads.

1st Recommendation: Smashing Physics by Jon Butterworth
2nd Recommendation: The Higgs Boson and Beyond by "The Great Courses"
 
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What math do you know?
 
anachin6000 said:
If it helps to know, I have self-studied mechanics (D. Morin), electromagnetism (Purcell and Morin), thermodynamics (Sears and Zemanski)

How do you know whether you truly understand these books, and not just think you understand them?
 
A question relevant to us all surely micromass?

Well done anachin6000, I can't think of anyone I know that would have taken the effort to read such tomes at high school.
 
mgkii said:
A question relevant to us all surely micromass?

Well done anachin6000, I can't think of anyone I know that would have taken the effort to read such tomes at high school.
Well done yes, it is good to develop an interest early, but one should not delude themselves into thinking that merely reading a textbook is understanding the content. You have to be able to solve the problems.
 
Solve what problem Mondayman? Anachin6000 came to the forum looking for a recommendation on a topic he/she's interested in and all you're doing is being a dick to the OP. Why not add something positive, or are you just intent on driving people off the forum?
 
I just want to ensure the OP understands that it isn't enough to just read through the textbook. That's just not how physics works. You have to be able to solve the problems. Purcell and Morin are pretty tall orders for someone just in high school.

You got it all wrong if you think I or anyone else here on PF is trying to drive people off the forum.

For the OP, take a look at The Ideas of Particle Physics by Coughlin/Dodd.
 
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For nuclear physics, a standard pretty easy book is Krane, Introductory Nuclear Physics.

You can do a lot of nuclear physics without knowing much relativity, but not so for particle physics. If you want to achieve a more mathematical understanding of SR, a couple of possibilities are Taylor and Wheeler, Spacetime Physics, or my own SR book: http://lightandmatter.com/sr/ .
 
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If he could tell us what math he already know this would be great for a good recommendation.
 
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+1 to Krane. It's pretty much the standard introductory text. Another option is Nuclear and Particle Physics: An Introduction by Martin. It's at a similar level to Krane, but is more modern and includes some particle physics. Personally, I favour Krane.
 
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micromass said:
How do you know whether you truly understand these books, and not just think you understand them?
Well, in my country we have lots of physics and math contests that have problems at that kind of level. So I would say that I understood those book and I am able to solve problems, since I am working problems daily and get pretty good results in those contests.
 
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Andreol263 said:
What math do you know?
I can understand pretty much anything related to calculus, but I still have some problems in computing integrals (like integrating along a curve). I also know what there is to know about vectors and complex numbers. Also algebra is not a problem.
 
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anachin runs into the typical problem of self-learners. Many people think, you don't understand a subject only because you study university texts during high school. I've had a similar experience. When I tried to ask my high school teachers about problems in my reading math books (which by the way were better to understand than the school books used at high school), they didn't take this very seriously and usually couldn't help. This only changed with my physics teacher, who was not a teacher but went to school teaching after some years as a postdoc in atomic physics. She always was very helpful and even gave me more books to study. So don't be discouraged by some of the comments in this thread. If you are able to solve the problems in these books, you should have a pretty good understanding of the subject.

Concerning the question about nuclear and particle physics: I also like Krane. Another good one is

B. Povh et al, Particles and Nuclei, Springer (2015)
http://www.springer.com/fr/book/9783662463208

More to the particle side is

O. Nachtmann, Elementary Particle Physics, Concepts and Phenomena, Springer (1990)
http://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-642-61281-7

It's a bit older and thus not covering some interesting topics like neutrino oscillations, it's one of the best books to introduce to the Standard Model. It includes the minimum of quantum field theory without which a good understanding of the subject is impossible, but it's still solidly based in the empirical foundations, including short and interesting sections on the history of discovery and theory development.

At the popular-science level, I find the best book is

L. Ledermann, D. Teresi, The God Particle

Despite the stupid title it's a marvelous explanation of the fundamental principles of particle physics.
 
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