What are the forces and connections in this roof truss?

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The discussion focuses on analyzing the forces and connections in a roof truss, specifically identifying which members are in tension or compression and calculating the force in member AC. The initial analysis suggests that members AB and BC are in compression while AC is in tension, but confusion arises when attempting to take moments at point B, leading to apparent force cancellation. Participants emphasize the importance of knowing the types of connections at points A and C, as this affects the problem's solvability, particularly regarding whether the system is statically determinate or indeterminate. The conversation also highlights the need for clarity on external forces, such as wind, and their impact on the truss's stability. Understanding the connections is crucial for accurately determining the forces within the truss structure.
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The first thing that i did was that i made the free body diagram. From my knowledge i would say that AB and BC are in compression and AC is in tension (i think that is correct). Now the question asked to take moments at B for finding the force in AC whether it be tension or compression, however when i do that it seems like the forces just cancel off each other, and that is where i am stuck

Here is the link for my free body diagram: http://www.drewtemp.com/helios/physics_freebody.gif


1. What i want to find is which members are in tension and compression (AB, BC, AC)?

2. What is the force at AC? The weight of AC is negligible.

3. What force from the left (the wind) is required to make the truss pivot at C?
 
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This should be in the homework help section.

What kind of restraints do the connections at points A and C have? How far up the truss are the two loads? Midpoints?
 
"Stresses in Framed Structures," Hool and Kinne; you might get lucky and it'll still be in your school library --- this is an old-timer's book, but does an understandable job of detailing the tension-compression question for truss members.
 
Hi cipher, got your PM. It's best to respond in the thread for homework problems. That way, anyone can respond.

If the two joints are pinned at A and C, then you've got an overdetermined problem, and there is most likely no force in AC (although you can't solve it because it's statically indeterminate). If one is pinned and one has a roller, then the problem is different. What type of connections do you have?
 
the connections are unknown however it is stated that the weight of AC is negligible. there is a force of 900N because i got the question from a book and that is what they had as the answer. another part of the question goes on to say that it has to pivot at C so i don't know if they are implying that c is the only fixed which is so not real...
 
Originally posted by cipher
the connections are unknown

The connections have to be known if you are going to solve the problem. Look carefully at the drawing in the book. One will be a pin, and one will be a roller, most likely.
 

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