What are the Normal Mode Frequencies for a Hanging Rod's Vertical Oscillation?

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The discussion centers on determining the normal mode frequencies for a uniform rod hanging vertically from an inelastic string. The user is struggling with how to treat the mass of the rod and has attempted to divide it into two parts without success. They seek guidance on finding the velocity of the center of mass in relation to the lengths and angles involved. The user emphasizes the need to express the total kinetic energy term based on this velocity and angular velocity. Clarification is also requested regarding the mention of two masses, as the string is considered massless.
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I Have a question that is bugging me because I can't get the answer out here's the question:

A uniform rod of length a hangs vertically on the end of an inelastic string of length a, the string being attached to the upper end of the rod. What are the frequencies of the normal modes of oscillation in the vertical plane.

Any help would be appreciated thanks
 
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I set the problem up with two angles, one that joins the string to the vertical and one that joins the string to the rod. My problem comes in not knowing how treat the mass in the question. I have tried dividing it up into two parts and that does not seem to work. I am effectively stuck before I am started.
 
Can you find the velocity of the center of mass of the rod, in terms of the lengths and angles (and their derivatives)? From v(COM) and the angular velocity about its top end, you can then write down the total kinetic energy term, T.

PS: I don't know what 2 masses you are talking about. The string is massless.
 
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