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I don't understand what is heat actually. And what are the physical constituents that make up this entity.
Welcome to PF!Ali Abbas said:I don't understand what is heat actually. And what are the physical constituents that make up this entity.
According to you, heat is the transit of thermal energy from a higher temperature body to a lower temperature body. I accept your statement about heat, but unfortunately it doesn't satisfy my curiosity. Its because what you stated above defines the flow of heat or exchange of thermal energy, but what actually is thermal energy?russ_watters said:Welcome to PF!
Heat is not a physical "thing". It is the name given to thermal energy in transit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat
There is a wiki article for that too, though it is a bit more complicated since there is more than one source for the energy (such as kinetic energy and chemical potentail energy): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_energyAli Abbas said:... what actually is thermal energy?
The above definition applies for classical thermodynamics. But what i want to know about heat or thermal energy is its nature, source of existence and the physical properties like density, nature or form, propogation technique, dimensions and density.Ali Abbas said:According to you, heat is the transit of thermal energy from a higher temperature body to a lower temperature body. I accept your statement about heat, but unfortunately it doesn't satisfy my curiosity. Its because what you stated above defines the flow of heat or exchange of thermal energy, but what actually is thermal energy?
"its nature" and "source of existence" is simply what we define it to be. But it doesn't have a physical form. It seems like you are expecting energy to be something it is not. We do get people confused or unsatisfied about this fairly often.Ali Abbas said:The above definition applies for classical thermodynamics. But what i want to know about heat or thermal energy is its nature, source of existence and the physical properties like density, nature or form, propogation technique, dimensions and density.
russ_watters said:There is a wiki article for that too, though it is a bit more complicated since there is more than one source for the energy (such as kinetic energy and chemical potentail energy):
thanks for the answer, this is something i was looking for. And it clarifies simply the whole concept.Efrain Garcia said:Heat is the energy and random motion of particles. Temperature is the measurement of that motion. For example, the less a particle vibrates, the "colder" it is. The more a particle moves, the "hotter" it is. The distribution of heat across many particles is simply the system trying to become equal.
Still got to know how thermal energy propogates in vaccuum? And what form of matter is thermal energy made up of. I am using the word 'matter' here because heat can cause variations in dimensions in other bodies of matter without direct contact. This is a property which has similar effects of 'force'. And force is an effect caused by involvement of mass, and mass is a quantity of matter present. Therefore i assume heat to be a non-contact forceEfrain Garcia said:Heat is the energy and random motion of particles. Temperature is the measurement of that motion. For example, the less a particle vibrates, the "colder" it is. The more a particle moves, the "hotter" it is. The distribution of heat across many particles is simply the system trying to become equal.
Heat doesn't need other molecules in order to propagate. In a vacuum, particles can lose quantum kinetic energy (heat) by giving off photons. We see this as infrared light, UV, visible light, etc. Heat doesn't have mass, it is used to describe energy. There is no particle that carries heat, heat is a property of particles. And can you elaborate on what you mean by "heat can cause variations in dimensions in other bodies... Without contact"?Ali Abbas said:Still got to know how thermal energy propogates in vaccuum? And what form of matter is thermal energy made up of. I am using the word 'matter' here because heat can cause variations in dimensions in other bodies of matter without direct contact. This is a property which has similar effects of 'force'. And force is an effect caused by involvement of mass, and mass is a quantity of matter present. Therefore i assume heat to be a non-contact force
It means changes is, shape, size, chemical configuration(ex:-combustion,burning,etc) , melting, push away objects in a particular direction. All these are the effects of 'force' , more likely 'non-contact force'.Efrain Garcia said:Heat doesn't need other molecules in order to propagate. In a vacuum, particles can lose quantum kinetic energy (heat) by giving off photons. We see this as infrared light, UV, visible light, etc. Heat doesn't have mass, it is used to describe energy. There is no particle that carries heat, heat is a property of particles. And can you elaborate on what you mean by "heat can cause variations in dimensions in other bodies... Without contact"?
Ali Abbas said:Still got to know how thermal energy propogates in vaccuum?
Ali Abbas said:And what form of matter is thermal energy made up of.
Ali Abbas said:This is a property which has similar effects of 'force'. And force is an effect caused by involvement of mass, and mass is a quantity of matter present. Therefore i assume heat to be a non-contact force
Ali Abbas said:It means changes is, shape, size, chemical configuration(ex:-combustion,burning,etc) , melting, push away objects in a particular direction. All these are the effects of 'force' , more likely 'non-contact force'.
Efrain Garcia said:In a vacuum, particles can lose quantum kinetic energy (heat) by giving off photons.
As said before, heat is not a substance.Ali Abbas said:Still got to know how thermal energy propogates in vaccuum? And what form of matter is thermal energy made up of. I am using the word 'matter' here because heat can cause variations in dimensions in other bodies of matter without direct contact. This is a property which has similar effects of 'force'. And force is an effect caused by involvement of mass, and mass is a quantity of matter present. Therefore i assume heat to be a non-contact force
The caloric theory is an obsolete scientific theory that heat consists of a self-repellent fluid called caloric that flows from hotter bodies to colder bodies. Caloric was also thought of as a weightless gas that could pass in and out of pores in solids and liquids.
Well, it is a particles movement. Ergo, kinetic energy. It can lose some of this energy by bumping into other atoms, giving off some of that energy directly, or give off photons, decreasing it's kinetic energy. That's why electrons and other particles more when excited by absorbing photons.Drakkith said:This isn't correct. Heat is not "quantum kinetic energy".