What Does Number of Diameters Mean in Pipe Flow Analysis?

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The discussion clarifies that the number of diameters (N) in pipe flow analysis represents the length of the pipe expressed in terms of its diameter, making it a dimensionless quantity. The equation L = ND is used to calculate equivalent lengths for fittings and elbows, which can then be incorporated into friction factor formulas like Darcy's. The head loss in a pipe is directly related to the ratio L/D, indicating that two pipes with the same L/D ratio will exhibit the same pressure drop despite differing diameters and flow rates. This relationship is rooted in the observed similarity in flow properties across different pipe sizes. Understanding these concepts is essential for accurate pipe flow analysis and design.
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what is the meaning of number of diameter N ? why the author make L = ND ? and then divide it by D ?

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This is a practical way to do it: you get an equivalent length for fittings, elbows etc. that you can add to the sum of lengths of straight sections and use in friction factor formulas (e.g. Darcy).

Head loss is a function of ##L\over D## .

Didactically the sheet you show is indeed rather ready for improvement. I find it confusing.
 
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BvU said:
This is a practical way to do it: you get an equivalent length for fittings, elbows etc. that you can add to the sum of lengths of straight sections and use in friction factor formulas (e.g. Darcy).

Head loss is a function of ##L\over D## .

Didactically the sheet you show is indeed rather ready for improvement. I find it confusing.
can you explain about what is ND / D ? i am confused
 
ND is L so ND / D is L/D. That is the factor that appears in the friction factor equations such as Darcy and Fanning (*). The approach exploits the observed similarity in flow properties between a flow in a pipe of 100 m and 1 m diameter and a flow in a pipe of 10 m with a diameter of 10 cm.

(*)
And I would almost wish one of the two never existed :smile:. Now you have to be really careful if you divide 16 or 64 by Re for laminar flow...
 
BvU said:
ND is L so ND / D is L/D. That is the factor that appears in the friction factor equations such as Darcy and Fanning (*). The approach exploits the observed similarity in flow properties between a flow in a pipe of 100 m and 1 m diameter and a flow in a pipe of 10 m with a diameter of 10 cm.

(*)
And I would almost wish one of the two never existed :smile:. Now you have to be really careful if you divide 16 or 64 by Re for laminar flow...
why L = ND ? i don't understand it
 
Length of the pipe expressed in number of diameters. Nicely dimensionless. What can I say ?
 
BvU said:
Length of the pipe expressed in number of diameters. Nicely dimensionless. What can I say ?
what does it mean by number of diameter ?
 
The two pipes in #4 have the same ##{L\over D} = 10## so they will show the same pressure drop for a given fluid with widely different volume flows (factor 100) but the same flow velocity.
 
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BvU said:
The two pipes in #4 have the same ##{L\over D} = 10## so they will show the same pressure drop for a given fluid with widely different volume flows (factor 100) but the same flow velocity.
ys , they have L/ D of factor 100 ,why they will have the same pressure drop ?
 
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Allright, L/D = 100 o:) .
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why they will have the same pressure drop
That's what has been observed to be the case :smile: .
'Apparently' ##\Delta p## is a function of L/D, something that probably also comes out of similarity considerations.

Something with ##{\rm Re} = {\rho v D\over \mu}##
 
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BvU said:
Allright, L/D = 100 o:) .
That's what has been observed to be the case :smile: .
'Apparently' ##\Delta p## is a function of L/D, something that probably also comes out of similarity considerations.

Something with ##{\rm Re} = {\rho v D\over \mu}##
ok , how does the case that you mentioned relate yo number of diameter ?
 
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