What exactly do we mean by nothingness? Im asking about when this

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The discussion centers on the concept of nothingness prior to the Big Bang, emphasizing that there are no observations or mathematical insights available to describe that state. Participants highlight that any exploration of this topic is inherently speculative, as it lacks empirical evidence. The forum rules prohibit speculative discussions, leading to the closure of the thread. The focus remains on the limitations of our understanding of the universe's origins. Ultimately, the conversation underscores the challenges of discussing concepts that extend beyond observable phenomena.
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What exactly do we mean by nothingness?Im asking about when this universe was not present..not about space.
 
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Since there are no observations before the BB and our math does not tell us anything about before the BB and discussion of this question must by its very nature be pure speculation.

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