News What Exactly Is Happening In the Arab/Persian World?

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Protests in Egypt have escalated into violence, with reports of protesters being beaten and arrested, including journalists. The unrest is characterized as significant but not an outright uprising, contrasting with the recent events in Tunisia. Rumors suggest that President Mubarak's family may have fled the country, raising concerns about potential instability. As protests continue, there are fears that the situation could worsen, particularly with a planned massive demonstration. The emergence of a leaderless youth movement is seen as a critical factor in challenging Mubarak's long-standing regime.
  • #251


Greg Bernhardt said:
Slashdot.org reporting egypt pulled it's last ISP. No Internet for Egypt.

True, and cell service is down, but now that people have had time to prepare, it doesn't seem to be having the same effect. Twitter and media outlets are pairing the ability to make certain "safe" international calls, speak your twiiter message, and have it posted by an external source. There are dozens of other ways to get actual internet, such as simply making an external call to a dial up proxy outside of your restrictive regime: you know, like the entire middle east and China's youth have been doing for years.

These measures are, I believe, effective in the early stages of organization, but once things have gone so far, fliers and word of mouth will do. In a way, this arguably cripples everyone except the military when they're out in the field, giving an advantage to any protesters who DO show up.

I would just add, I love the museum... it's great, but there's still the Sphinx, pyramids, dig sites... oh yes, and the Suez. Besides, there isn't the horrific cultural divive in Egypt, or rather, the minorities are so minor that they don't represent a "Sudan-like" population to victimize.
 
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  • #252


WhoWee said:
...and with a splintered military, the Canal could turn into the coast of Somalia.

Except that if needed, Israel can take the Suez, and then hold it with US aid... the area which needs to be held is minimal compared to the entire coast of Somalia.

Look, there's worry and caution, and then there's giving yourself agita for no reason.
 
  • #253


nismaratwork said:
Except that if needed, Israel can take the Suez, and then hold it with US aid... the area which needs to be held is minimal compared to the entire coast of Somalia.

Look, there's worry and caution, and then there's giving yourself agita for no reason.

"Israel can take the Suez"? How would that ease tensions?
 
  • #255


lisab said:
I'm betting the Egyptians will be savvy enough to recognize BS when they hear it :smile:!
nismaratwork said:
They're WAY too angry to care at this point... I wouldn't worry.


... omg geez ... :blushing: yet another of my very "Late Show" disasters ... :biggrin:
 
  • #256


Ummm... A little louder please...

DevilsAvocado said:
...
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/02/01/jordan.government/"


Amazing how two weeks ago this would have been the talk of the world. Now it's a side note.
 
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  • #257


More uncertainty - aside from change - what does the crowd actually want to achieve? When/where/how will they find their voice?
 
  • #258


OmCheeto said:
Ummm... A little louder please...

Thanks! :biggrin:
 
  • #259


Greg Bernhardt said:
Slashdot.org reporting egypt pulled it's last ISP. No Internet for Egypt.

turbo-1 said:
Need satellite links to get anything out of Egypt now. Al Jazeera has already sussed that out a long time ago after getting stiffed by autocratic Arabic regimes. Hope they can keep the information flowing tomorrow (Week anniversary of the protests.)


There’s still a possibility to tweet.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/feb/01/google-twitter-egypt

Google and Twitter launch service enabling Egyptians to tweet by phone

Google and Twitter have launched a service to allow people in Egypt to send Twitter messages by leaving a voicemail on a specific number after the last internet service provider in the country saw its access cut off late on Monday.

The new service, which has been created by co-ordination between the two internet companies, uses Google's speech-to-text recognition service to automatically translate provides an online voicemail service and tweets a link to each message, which is sent out on Twitter with the "#egypt" hashtag.

Google listed three phone numbers for people to call to use the service. They are: +16504194196; +390662207294; and +97316199855.


http://twitter.com/search?q=#Egypt" :!)
 
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  • #260


CNN: OBAMA calls natl. SECURITY MEETING
 
  • #261


Well, CNN is reporting that Mubarak has decided not to run again, but he still wants to finish out his 8 more months. I'm not sure that's going to cut it for the people on the street anymore... they really loathe him and his police.
 
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NPR was also reporting that Netanyahu was now backpedaling, speaking out in favor of democracy as opposed to their gov't's earlier attempt to request privately that other nations support the Mubarak gov't. seems the writing is on the wall. you may still need a few months, tho, to hammer out a new constitution or whatever it is they need to ensure that future gov'ts can't also undermine democratic process.
 
  • #263


CONGRATULATIONS AND SUCCESS TO THE PEOPLE OF EGYPT!
May you know much better times in the future, much happiness and good communications.
Go in Strength and go and do good.
 
  • #264


Lacy33 said:
CONGRATULATIONS AND SUCCESS TO THE PEOPLE OF EGYPT!
May you know much better times in the future, much happiness and good communications.
Go in Strength and go and do good.


BTW - What is your plan - do you have one yet?
 
  • #265


WhoWee said:
"Israel can take the Suez"? How would that ease tensions?

Who said anything about easing tensions? I was responding to the notion of an insecure shipping channel being secured in the context of international stability.
 
  • #266


An interesting article on Egypt... I'm personally not sure what to think of it.
 
  • #267


WhoWee said:
BTW - What is your plan - do you have one yet?

We let the peoples work things out. I am happy the President did not just walk away and really let things run a muck. He is going to be hearing from everyone and more things will be happening in the region as well so all that will be considered.
This is not my field, but I, being an older person am thankful the young got him to move...out and he was wise not to just take off and go on vacation.

Why are you asking me?
Is this thread the center of world government and all leaders are watching us here taking our advice on how to run the world?
I just congratulated the people for successfully taking hold of their future as it should be.
The people want him to step down NOW!
If he steps down NOW! What is YOUR plan? :shy:
 
  • #268


Hmmm... the crowd in Tahrir square seems far more angry than mollified by Mubarak. More waiting and seeing I guess, to see how the rest of Egypt reacts.
 
  • #269


Lacy33 said:
We let the peoples work things out. I am happy the President did not just walk away and really let things run a muck. He is going to be hearing from everyone and more things will be happening in the region as well so all that will be considered.
This is not my field, but I, being an older person am thankful the young got him to move...out and he was wise not to just take off and go on vacation.

Why are you asking me?
Is this thread the center of world government and all leaders are watching us here taking our advice on how to run the world?
I just congratulated the people for successfully taking hold of their future as it should be.
The people want him to step down NOW!
If he steps down NOW! What is YOUR plan? :shy:

I too think this might be the best solution. If he were to walk away it would create a vacuum of power - most likely filled by all the wrong people - just waiting for such an opportunity.

No, my question was an add-on to your post - not a challenge. I hope the people of Egypt can now find a voice and a plan (I don't believe they have either at this point) - Mubarak's job description might become mediator?
 
  • #270


Irrelevant... this speech has had the opposite effect intended... from all reporting the crowds, political parties, are incredibly angered by Mubarak's statement. They don't seem to believe him (what a shock right? :rolleyes:) and they're saying they will occupy other squares, and take his palace at Heliopolis.

I believe Mubarak is going to have to run, or die in his pride; how very 'Old Testament' of him!
 
  • #271


WhoWee said:
I too think this might be the best solution. If he were to walk away it would create a vacuum of power - most likely filled by all the wrong people - just waiting for such an opportunity.

No, my question was an add-on to your post - not a challenge. I hope the people of Egypt can now find a voice and a plan (I don't believe they have either at this point) - Mubarak's job description might become mediator?

They're too angry WhoWee, and they've realized that they have this power? I don't believe the Egyptians want anything, literally anything they can all agree on except that they want Mubarak gone.

Given how diverse Egyptian society is, it would be like Ivan, Russ, Myself, You, Al, Jared, DA... ALL saying that Obama was evil and had to be impeached... it might be the only thing we'd all agree on, but until that was done can you imagine how motivated that kind of coalition would be?
 
  • #272


nismaratwork said:
They're too angry WhoWee, and they've realized that they have this power? I don't believe the Egyptians want anything, literally anything they can all agree on except that they want Mubarak gone.

Given how diverse Egyptian society is, it would be like Ivan, Russ, Myself, You, Al, Jared, DA... ALL saying that Obama was evil and had to be impeached... it might be the only thing we'd all agree on, but until that was done can you imagine how motivated that kind of coalition would be?

Sure they are full of themselves. They and we just realized how much power the "people" have.
We all have to get use to this FAST! But there are enough grown ups (of all ages) around to organize. Keep out the real extremists,.. PLEASE... and this will work out.
So they are mad. :redface: .. I know in real life when I am impassioned and then make my point suddenly and unexpectedly, I don't always (if ever) have the grace to just shut up and take the next step in problem solving. OMgosh! What if there were thousands of Lacy's? All outside in the street too stunned to just be quiet? :eek: :blushing:
This is human nature. Let it be. Some forces need to quiet slower.
This has everyone's attention now.
All will be for good.. (How Old Testement. LOL)
And why am I not on that obama list please?
 
  • #273


OK, Obama is going to talk... (for a change. )
 
  • #274


nismaratwork said:
Given how diverse Egyptian society is, it would be like Ivan, Russ, Myself, You, Al, Jared, DA... ALL saying that Obama was evil and had to be impeached... it might be the only thing we'd all agree on, but until that was done can you imagine how motivated that kind of coalition would be?

Count me out!


(:smile:)
 
  • #275


Lacy33 said:
OK, Obama is going to talk... (for a change. )


Yup, this will be very interesting...


*** Sign in Cairo: Yes We Can Too ***
 
  • #276


DevilsAvocado said:
Count me out!


(:smile:)

What does it take to get Ivan to post? Has anyone heard from him?
 
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  • #278


WhoWee said:
Has anyone heard from him?

Too much revolution going on...
 
  • #280


DevilsAvocado said:
Count me out!


(:smile:)

If you're going out, I want to be put in instead!
 
  • #281


DevilsAvocado said:
Count me out!


(:smile:)

OH, and Obama is not evil in anything and I am evil in more than I care to be?
Reality check:

:rolleyes:
 
  • #282


Evo said:
Ivan is on sabatical. He won't be here for awhile.

ahhh I miss! :cry:
 
  • #283


DevilsAvocado said:
Well Lacy... I think it might be that... THIS THREAD IS https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=468154"...(:smile:)
Well Excuse me Please. I knew you all had smart, important and famous peoples here. But Royal, I did not know. I take back everything I said of dear Obama and will just keep it to myself.
Let me forward the address of the pysch unit I will be on...:frown:
 
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  • #284


Lacy33 said:
OH, and Obama is not evil in anything and I am evil in more than I care to be?
Reality check:

:rolleyes:

[URL]http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00634/SNN3001MAN_180_634162a.jpg[/URL] Que?¿
 
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  • #285


Lacy33 said:
Sure they are full of themselves. They and we just realized how much power the "people" have.
We all have to get use to this FAST! But there are enough grown ups (of all ages) around to organize. Keep out the real extremists,.. PLEASE... and this will work out.
So they are mad. :redface: .. I know in real life when I am impassioned and then make my point suddenly and unexpectedly, I don't always (if ever) have the grace to just shut up and take the next step in problem solving. OMgosh! What if there were thousands of Lacy's? All outside in the street too stunned to just be quiet? :eek: :blushing:
This is human nature. Let it be. Some forces need to quiet slower.
This has everyone's attention now.
All will be for good.. (How Old Testement. LOL)
And why am I not on that obama list please?


You're on the list, you're on the list... :-p

So, all will be for the good, or as they're saying in Egypt, "Insha'Allah, all will be for the god."

Oh, and hundreds of thousands of you?! Who would make the Cholent then?! :biggrin:


Seriously though, I hope the same as you, but I worry that this will end with the youth too riled, not listening to reason. We can just hope that the people of Egypt shape their future wisely, if they're given the chance.
 
  • #286


DevilsAvocado said:
[URL]http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00634/SNN3001MAN_180_634162a.jpg[/URL] Que?¿

MAAANUELLL!

I love that show.
 
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  • #287


Lacy33 said:
Well Excuse me Please. I knew you all had smart, important and famous peoples here. But Royal, I did not know. I take back everything I said of dear Obama and will just keep it to myself.
Let me forward the address of the pysch unit I will be on...:frown:

:smile:
 
  • #288


Obama on-line!
 
  • #289


DevilsAvocado said:
[URL]http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00634/SNN3001MAN_180_634162a.jpg[/URL] Que?¿

This should have come with a warning way in advance for us who eat while reading.

Not that I was not going to inhale my dinner anyway.
 
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  • #290


Lacy33 said:
This should have come with a warning way in advance for us who eat while reading.

Not that I was not going to inhale my dinner anyway.


Heeeey... that is a funny actor from 'Fawlty Towers!'... he was kind of the... uh...

which is the Yiddish for the person in comedy or life who isn't malicious, but always bumbling? Shlemiel? Shmuck? Anyway, he was the "dimwitted Barcelonan" of the show, but really... fantastic physical comedy with John Cleese.

... nyuk nyuk nyuk :wink:
 
  • #291


Obama Off-line.
4 minutes?
Does he have the flu?
 
  • #292


nismaratwork said:
Heeeey... that is a funny actor from 'Fawlty Towers!'... he was kind of the... uh...

which is the Yiddish for the person in comedy or life who isn't malicious, but always bumbling? Shlemiel? Shmuck? Anyway, he was the "dimwitted Barcelonan" of the show, but really... fantastic physical comedy with John Cleese.

... nyuk nyuk nyuk :wink:

Fawlty Towers!? That show almost killed me. I think it was the one where his car is attacked by the tree.
 
  • #293


Lacy33 said:
Fawlty Towers!? That show almost killed me. I think it was the one where his car is attacked by the tree.

I don't remember that one, but it's on Netflix 'on demand' if you have that... and boy is it worth it. I honestly think it's the best physical comedy since The Three Stooges, and they were amazing.

Episode that I know you will love: 'The Germans'.
 
  • #294


nismaratwork said:
MAAANUELLL!

I love that show.

x 2 :biggrin:

villapauli.jpg
 
  • #295


nismaratwork said:
Episode that I know you will love: 'The Germans'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xnNhzgcWTk

:biggrin:
 
  • #296


Lacy33 said:
This should have come with a warning way in advance for us who eat while reading.

Not that I was not going to inhale my dinner anyway.


Lacy, I love when you show that :devil: inside.


:cool:
 
  • #297


"Not funny! Not to any German people!"

Awww... it's pretty funny. By the way, I wonder just what a "Prawn Goebbels" tastes like? :-p
 
  • #298


<cough> Guys, does this thread look like it should be in P&WA?

Do I need to get mean? All of you...go sit in the corner! Don't make me use force.

There will be a cleanup later to bring the thread back to being a real P&WA thread.
 
  • #299


Evo said:
<cough> Guys, does this thread look like it should be in P&WA?

... ouch, sorry … very, sorry ... :redface::blushing::redface:
 
  • #300


EVO!

o:) So the people are stilll in the streets screaming that they want change now and the President says he only has big bills nothing smaller. They will just have to wait until he can go buy something small like a BMW and make change for them... And Obama is acting "stern" and "all in charge" like he da man. And I think everything will be ok as long as the Rabbis don't make a mix in this and then we will all be crying :cry: because then NO ONE will agree. :smile:
 

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