What exactly is the detector of an ellipsometer measuring?

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The discussion centers around the functioning of a PSA (polariser-sample-analyser) ellipsometer, specifically focusing on what the detector measures and how it interprets the data regarding the sample being analyzed. The scope includes technical explanations of the measurement process and the role of various components in the ellipsometer setup.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the specific measurements taken by the detector in an ellipsometer, questioning whether it measures light intensity and how a single measurement can provide information about the sample.
  • Another participant asserts that the detector measures optical power, suggesting that various methods can be employed, such as using a photodiode for single beam systems or a camera for imaging systems.
  • A subsequent reply clarifies that it is not a single measurement; instead, intensity is measured as a function of the angle between the polarizer and analyzer, indicating that the polarizer or analyzer rotates during the measurement process.
  • Further elaboration mentions that in some systems, a waveplate may be spun, and in others, a variable waveplate is used for faster measurements, emphasizing that multiple measurements are necessary to determine the null position of the signal.
  • One participant seeks confirmation about the angle of measurement being the angle between the polariser and analyser and raises a question about whether measurements are also based on the incidence angle on the sample.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of the measurements taken by the detector and the process involved. There is no consensus on whether a single measurement can provide sufficient information about the sample, as multiple measurements and angles are discussed.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the complexity of the measurement process in ellipsometry, including the dependence on the orientation of the polarizer and analyzer, as well as the potential involvement of additional components like waveplates. The specifics of how these factors influence the measurements remain unresolved.

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Hi. I'm curious about how a PSA (polariser-sample-analyser) ellipsometer works, especifically the detector bit. In an ellipsomenter, light passes through a polariser which puts it into a known polarisation state. After that it hits a sample (which may be an interface, a surface or a thin film) and because the Fresenel coefficients behave differently for different polarisation states, the components of the light interacting with the sample are modified differently, making the reflected light elliptically polarised. Light is then passed through an analyser and is collected by the detector.

After the analyser, the electric field has an amplitude given by the sum of the components of the electric field before the analyser and is oscillating in the direction prescribdeb by the analyser.

Now, my doubt is... what is the detector really measuring? Is it measuring the light intensity? How a single measurement can give any information about the sample?

Thank you very much.
 
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Simply optical power. There are various choices as to how to measure optical power, but for a single beam system this can just be a photodiode. For imaging systems it can be a camera. All of the information is in the modulation of the intensity as a function of polarizer - analyzer orientation.
 
Sorry for the double post. I didn't see the "single measurement" question. It isn't a single measurement. The polarizer or analyzer spins and the intensity is measured as a function of angle. In some systems a waveplate is spun. In some systems the variable waveplate is electro optical for fast measurement. In some systems a single orientation of analyzer and compensator are found that null the signal. While this is only one position it still takes multiple measurements to find it.
 
Cutter Ketch said:
Sorry for the double post. I didn't see the "single measurement" question. It isn't a single measurement. The polarizer or analyzer spins and the intensity is measured as a function of angle. In some systems a waveplate is spun. In some systems the variable waveplate is electro optical for fast measurement. In some systems a single orientation of analyzer and compensator are found that null the signal. While this is only one position it still takes multiple measurements to find it.
Thank you very much. The angle the intensity is a function of is the angle between polariser and analyser, right? Don't they do measurements based on the incidence angle on the sample as well?
 

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