What information can be found in the columns of the transition matrix?

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The discussion revolves around finding the transition matrix between two bases, ##B_1## and ##B_2##, in a vector space. Participants are exploring the implications of the transition matrix and its columns in the context of linear algebra.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster expresses confusion regarding the method to find the transition matrix, noting that previous problems involved ##n \times 1## vectors and inverses, which they believe may not apply here. They seek guidance on the first step to take.
  • Another participant suggests expressing one set of basis vectors in terms of the other, indicating a potential approach to the problem.
  • A question is raised about the information contained in the columns of the transition matrix, prompting further exploration of its properties.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants questioning the definitions and theorems relevant to transition matrices. Some guidance has been provided regarding the nature of the transition matrix and its columns, but no consensus or resolution has been reached yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of linear transformations and the representation of vectors in different bases, with an emphasis on understanding the foundational concepts before proceeding to calculations.

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Homework Statement


Let ##B_1 = {\begin{bmatrix} 1 \\ 1 \\ 1\\ 0 \end{bmatrix}}, {\begin{bmatrix} 1 \\ 1 \\ 0\\ 0 \end{bmatrix}}, {\begin{bmatrix} 0 \\ 0 \\ 1\\ 1 \end{bmatrix}} ## and ##B_2 = {\begin{bmatrix} 1 \\ 1 \\ 1\\ 1 \end{bmatrix}}, {\begin{bmatrix} 1 \\ 1 \\ 1\\ -1 \end{bmatrix}}, {\begin{bmatrix} 1 \\ 1 \\ -1\\ 1 \end{bmatrix}}## be two bases for ##span(B_1)##, where the usual left to right ordering is assumed. Find the transition matrix ##P##B1##\to##B2

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I'm a bit flummoxed here. All the problems I've dealt with so far have had ##n## ##n \times 1## vectors and were solved by finding inverses. That cannot work here. What would be the first step in solving this?
 
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Lord Anoobis said:

Homework Statement


Let ##B_1 = {\begin{bmatrix} 1 \\ 1 \\ 1\\ 0 \end{bmatrix}}, {\begin{bmatrix} 1 \\ 1 \\ 0\\ 0 \end{bmatrix}}, {\begin{bmatrix} 0 \\ 0 \\ 1\\ 1 \end{bmatrix}} ## and ##B_2 = {\begin{bmatrix} 1 \\ 1 \\ 1\\ 1 \end{bmatrix}}, {\begin{bmatrix} 1 \\ 1 \\ 1\\ -1 \end{bmatrix}}, {\begin{bmatrix} 1 \\ 1 \\ -1\\ 1 \end{bmatrix}}## be two bases for ##span(B_1)##, where the usual left to right ordering is assumed. Find the transition matrix ##P##B1##\to##B2

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The Attempt at a Solution


I'm a bit flummoxed here. All the problems I've dealt with so far have had ##n## ##n \times 1## vectors and were solved by finding inverses. That cannot work here. What would be the first step in solving this?

You could express one set of basis vectors in terms of the other basis.
 
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The first step: know the relevant definitions and theorems

If you want to find the transition matrix, you have to know what information can be found within it. In general, a transition matrix gives you all the information you need to know to convert coordinates of a certain basis to coordinates relative to another basis. Denote the transition matrix from ##B_1## to ##B_2## with ##M##. Do you know what information you can find in the columns of ##M##?
 

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