What is the angle between an arrow and a plane?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the angle between an arrow and a plane defined by specific points in 3D space. The user initially calculated the plane's equation and the arrow's direction but struggled to find the correct angle. A hint was provided that the angle between the line and the plane is 90 degrees minus the angle between the line and the plane's normal vector. The user then recalculated using the scalar product of the normal and the arrow vector, arriving at an angle of approximately 28.56 degrees. The conversation emphasizes that simpler methods, such as using vectors and cross products, could have sufficed for the solution.
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I'm a little uncertain concerning a math-question and would like to know if I've done anything wrong here, I do not have the correct answer which is why I'm asking.

Homework Statement


An arrow is shot in a straight line through the points (3, 4, -1) and (-2, 5, 2) and hits a plane containing the points (2, -1, 3) and (3, -3, 5) and (4, 0, 2). What is the angle between the arrow and the plane?

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I've done it like this, I first calculated the equation for the plane to be 0x + 5y + 5z - 10 = 0 and the direction of the arrow to (-5, 1, 3).

The arrow hits the plane in (17/4, 15/4, -7/4) and together with the arrow vector and the normal to the plane (0, 5, 5) a new plane can be calculated with help of the determinant. Its equation is 2x - 5y + 5z + 19 = 0.

I then calculated the line which the two planes have in common: x = -9/2-5t, y = 2-t, z = t.

And the last thing I did was to use the scalar product with (-5, -1, 1) and (-5, 1, 3), which gave me the answer that the angle equals about 29 degrees (28,56).

Is this correct?
 
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Hi Anden! :smile:
Anden said:
An arrow is shot in a straight line through the points (3, 4, -1) and (-2, 5, 2) and hits a plane containing the points (2, -1, 3) and (3, -3, 5) and (4, 0, 2). What is the angle between the arrow and the plane?

I've done it like this, I first calculated the equation for the plane to be 0x + 5y + 5z - 10 = 0 and the direction of the arrow to (-5, 1, 3).

The arrow hits the plane in (17/4, 15/4, -7/4) and together with the arrow vector and the normal to the plane (0, 5, 5) a new plane can be calculated with help of the determinant. Its equation is 2x - 5y + 5z + 19 = 0. …

eugh!

Hint: the angle between the line and the plane is 90º minus the angle between the line and the normal (and you can find the normal directly from the three points). :wink:
 
tiny-tim said:
Hi Anden! :smile:


eugh!

Hint: the angle between the line and the plane is 90º minus the angle between the line and the normal (and you can find the normal directly from the three points). :wink:

Ok, LOL (Pardon the expression :smile:)

The scalar product of the normal (0, 5, 5) and the vector (-5, 1, 3) is 4/\sqrt{70} = cos a which gives a = 61,439 and 90-a = 28,56.

Thank you very much! :rolleyes:
 
Hi Anden! :smile:

Just one more tip:

you don't necessarily need to write equations for lines and planes

in this case, all you needed were vectors parallel to the line and to the normal, and for the normal you could just have used the cross product of two vectors in the plane. :wink:
 
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