What Is the Angular Momentum of Two Masses on a Rotating Rod?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the angular momentum of a system consisting of two masses attached to a rotating rod. The initial calculations for the moment of inertia (I) and angular velocity (ω) were incorrect, leading to an erroneous angular momentum (L) result. The correct approach involves determining the center of mass and using it to find the moment of inertia about that point. The final calculations suggest that the angular momentum should be approximately 3.05 kgm²/s, but the user is still struggling to arrive at the correct answer. Clarification on the methodology and calculations is sought to resolve the discrepancies.
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Homework Statement


A light, rigid rod l = 9.44 m in length rotates
in the xy plane about a pivot through the
rod’s center. Two particles of masses m1 =
9.1 kg and m2 = 2.5 kg are connected to its
ends.


Determine the angular momentum of the
system about the origin at the instant the
speed of each particle is v = 2.1 m/s.
Answer in units of kgm2/s.

Homework Equations


Lz=Iw
I = mr2
I = (1/12)ML2
w = v/r

The Attempt at a Solution


I used the above equations:
Lz=Iw
I = mr2
I = (1/12)ML2
w = v/r
I = 1/12(9.1kg)((9.44)2)=67.578
I = 1/12(2.5kg)((9.44)2)=18.57
sum of I = 86.1431
Used w = v/r = ((2.1m/s))/(9.44/2)=0.444915
Lz=Iw
(86.1431)(0.444915)=38.32639
I got it wrong, please help, what did I do wrong? Did I even approach the right way? Thanks.
 
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To find the correct value of I, you would need the moment of inertia about the centre of mass?
 
For the MOI about the centre of mass, take take the radius as 4.72m and the centre x=0.
Hence,

centre of mass, x_{cm}= \frac{2.5\times -4.72 +9.1\times 4.72}{2.5+9.1}<br /> =2.68m

MOI, I_{cm}=\frac{1}{12}(M_{system})(x_{cm})^{2}=\frac{1}{12}(11.6)(2.68)^{2}=6.94

\omega=\frac{v}{r}<br /> =\frac{2.1}{4.72}<br /> = 0.44 rad/s

Therefore, L=I\omega=6.94\times 0.44=3.05 kgm^{2}/s
 
mitch987 said:
For the MOI about the centre of mass, take take the radius as 4.72m and the centre x=0.
Hence,

centre of mass, x_{cm}= \frac{2.5\times -4.72 +9.1\times 4.72}{2.5+9.1}<br /> =2.68m

MOI, I_{cm}=\frac{1}{12}(M_{system})(x_{cm})^{2}=\frac{1}{12}(11.6)(2.68)^{2}=6.94

\omega=\frac{v}{r}<br /> =\frac{2.1}{4.72}<br /> = 0.44 rad/s

Therefore, L=I\omega=6.94\times 0.44=3.05 kgm^{2}/s


I tried that, but it is not right either. ;(
 
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