What is the best mathematics book for physicists?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around recommendations for mathematics books suitable for physicists, exploring various texts and approaches to studying mathematics in relation to physics. Participants share their opinions on specific books and suggest areas of mathematics that may be beneficial for someone with a background in physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants recommend Arfken and Weber as a good resource for practicing physicists, while Boas is suggested as more suitable for undergraduates.
  • There is a suggestion to explore multiple books to find the right material, as different texts may serve different needs.
  • One participant advises against using Cahill's book, describing it as nearly worthless unless one already understands the concepts.
  • Sean Carroll's lecture notes on general relativity are highlighted for their introduction to the mathematics of GR, with additional recommendations for Spivak's and Bishop's works on manifolds.
  • Georgi's book on Lie algebras is mentioned as enjoyable but potentially not suitable for beginners.
  • Some participants emphasize the need for foundational knowledge in linear algebra, multivariable calculus, and basic differential equations before tackling more advanced texts.
  • There are mentions of various calculus books, with some participants sharing personal preferences for specific editions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions on which books are most suitable, with no consensus on a single "best" book. Some agree on the importance of foundational mathematics, while others suggest a variety of advanced texts that may not be appropriate for all readers.

Contextual Notes

Participants note varying levels of mathematical and physics knowledge, which influences their recommendations. There is acknowledgment that some suggested texts may be too advanced for beginners.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students or individuals interested in bridging the gap between mathematics and physics, particularly those seeking guidance on appropriate resources for their level of understanding.

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what is the best mathematics book for physicists ?or in what way should i study math if i need it for physics? . thanks!
 
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thank you very much . is it better to read both of them or one is enough ?
 
Hard to say, sometimes you need to look in several books until you find what you're looking for.

I think Arfken and Weber is good for practicing physicists whereas Boas is a good undergrad book. I've heard a lot of good reviews about the Boas book. I have a copy of Arfken and Weber and like the style of presentation.

There's also the Nearing book which is available online which you could start with:

http://www.physics.miami.edu/~nearing/mathmethods/
 
Absolutely avoid Cahill. It's nearly worthless unless you already know the concepts and just need a refresher.
 
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ok . thank you so much
 
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Sean Carroll's lecture notes on general relativity contain a superb introduction to the mathematics of GR (differential geometry on Riemann manifolds). These also also published in modified form in his book, Spacetime and Geometry.

Spivak's Calculus on Manifolds is a gem. Bishop's Tensor Analysis on Manifolds is a great introduction to the subject, and published by Dover, is very cheap (less than $10 on amazon).

Georgi's Lie Algebras in Particle Physics is enjoyable and fast-paced, but probably skips around too much to be used as an adequate first exposure.

Shutz's Geomertical Methods of mathematical physics and a first course in general relativity.

Despite it's incredibly pompous title, Penrose's The road to reality: A completer guide to the laws of the Universe provides an enjoyable high-level view of a vast expanse of mathematical physics.

As mentioned by Cedric, I am a huge fan of Sussman and Wisdom's Structure and Interpretation of Classical Mechanics and the associated Functional Differential Geometry memo. The citations in those publications will also point to towards a lot of good material and there's more goodies if you dig around in the source code.
 
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AhmedHesham,

How much math do you already know? How much physics?

jason
 
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jasonRF said:
AhmedHesham,

How much math do you already know? How much physics?

jason

I know some algebra , some geometry and some calculus only . in physics I know elementary things about classical mechanics and electromagnitism
 
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carollbert said:
Sean Carroll's lecture notes on general relativity contain a superb introduction to the mathematics of GR (differential geometry on Riemann manifolds). These also also published in modified form in his book, Spacetime and Geometry.

Spivak's Calculus on Manifolds is a gem. Bishop's Tensor Analysis on Manifolds is a great introduction to the subject, and published by Dover, is very cheap (less than $10 on amazon).

Georgi's Lie Algebras in Particle Physics is enjoyable and fast-paced, but probably skips around too much to be used as an adequate first exposure.

Shutz's Geomertical Methods of mathematical physics and a first course in general relativity.

Despite it's incredibly pompous title, Penrose's The road to reality: A completer guide to the laws of the Universe provides an enjoyable high-level view of a vast expanse of mathematical physics.

As mentioned by Cedric, I am a huge fan of Sussman and Wisdom's Structure and Interpretation of Classical Mechanics and the associated Functional Differential Geometry memo. The citations in those publications will also point to towards a lot of good material and there's more goodies if you dig around in the source code.
Thanks
carollbert
 
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AhmedHesham said:
I know some algebra , some geometry and some calculus only . in physics I know elementary things about classical mechanics and electromagnitism
In that case, you probably should learn linear algebra, multivariable calculus and basic differential equations before reading even the most basic of the books listed by others here (Nearing: http://www.physics.miami.edu/~nearing/mathmethods/; and Boas).

Books on Lie algebras, general relativity, differential geometry, etc. are way beyond your level at this point. (They are probably beyond my level, too!)

jason
 
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There are many books on calculus that fit the bill for your next step (multivariable calculus, elementary vector calculus). I learned from Thomas and Finney 7th edition (https://www.amazon.com/dp/0201163209/?tag=pfamazon01-20) but many folks here think that the 3rd edition is superior to all the rest (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GMPZBGA/?tag=pfamazon01-20)

For linear algebra, a good free book is by Hefferon, free at:
http://joshua.smcvt.edu/linearalgebra/
but you can also buy a paperpack if you like hardcopy better: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0989897567/?tag=pfamazon01-20
Many other books exist - search physicsforums for linear algebra books and you will find many results

There are many differential equations books. I do not know what is best.

jason
 
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thanks very much
 

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