What is the Correct Approach for Calculating Magnetic Field Strength?

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The discussion revolves around calculating magnetic field strength, specifically focusing on the concepts of permeability and permittivity in the context of magnetic fields and electric fields. Participants are examining the correct interpretation of vectors and their roles in the calculation process.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are exploring the definitions and differences between permeability and permittivity, questioning the original poster's assumptions about vector directions and their implications for the magnetic field calculation.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing clarifications on terminology and vector interpretation. Some guidance has been offered regarding the correct use of vectors in the context of the problem, but there is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the original poster's approach.

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There is a noted confusion regarding the definitions of permeability and permittivity, as well as the correct interpretation of the radial vector in relation to the wire's position. The original poster's notes are called into question, indicating a potential misunderstanding of fundamental concepts.

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I let µ be 9, as that's the approximate permittivity of air/ free space.
I assumed that as a hat had a subscript y, it ran parallel to the y axis, and worked from there, getting the cross product of the unit vector in the direction of a hat, (which I took to be (0,1,0) ) and (sqrt(1/2), 0, sqrt(1/2)), which I worked out from the x and z positions given, and then scalar multiplying by the preceding stuff.
Did I approach this correctly? If not, where did i go wrong?
 
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wheybags said:
I let µ be 9, as that's the approximate permittivity of air/ free space.

µ is the permeability of free space.

ehild
 
Is permeability the same as permittivity? Beacuse my notes say permittivity.
 
Permeability of vacuum: \mu_0 = 4 \pi 10^{-7} N/A^2

Permittivity of vacuum: \epsilon_0 = \frac{1}{c^2 \mu_0} \approx 8.854 \times 10^{-12} F/m
 
So my notes are wrong?
 
No, the permeability is used in magnetic fields, while permittivity is used in electric fields. Permittivity measures the two-way interaction between electric fields and mediums. Like say how much an exterior electric field affects the formation of interior electric fields in water.
Permeabiity on the other hand, measures the capability of a medium to uphold a magnetic field, no matter if an exterior magnetic field creates it or the medium itself.

EDIT: Yes, I'm afraid your notes are wrong.
 
Well, ****, I knew my lecturer was bad, but I mean, really...
 
Forgot to say, if I were to fix that error, was my solution otherwise correct?
 
In this problem, the radial vector points from the wire to the origin. So your r-hat vector is not correct.

ehild
 
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Oh, I thought it was from the point (in this case the origin) to the wire. Was my interpretation of a hat subscript y correct?
 
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The current in the wire causes the magnetic field, and R and r-hat is with respect to the wire which is not at the origin now.
The unit vector pointing in the direction of the current is OK.

ehild
 

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