What is the Correct Approach for Solving ∫x^3*√(x^2-5) dx?

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Homework Statement



∫x^3*√(x^2-5) dx

Homework Equations



∫u.dv=u.v-∫du.v


The Attempt at a Solution



So i tried to change the integral to ∫x*x^2*√(x^2-5)dx and u = x^2-5, then du = 2x, so 1/2*∫x^2*√(x^2-5) . Let u = √(x^2-5) , du = x/√(x^2-5) and dv = x^2 , v = x^3/3. Am I going in the right direction?

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ruiwp13 said:

Homework Statement



∫x^3*√(x^2-5) dx

Homework Equations



∫u.dv=u.v-∫du.v


The Attempt at a Solution



So i tried to change the integral to ∫x*x^2*√(x^2-5)dx and u = x^2-5, then du = 2x, so 1/2*∫x^2*√(x^2-5) . Let u = √(x^2-5) , du = x/√(x^2-5) and dv = x^2 , v = x^3/3. Am I going in the right direction?

Thanks in advance

You don't need parts. Your first substitution is the one to use, u = x^2-5. Notice that means x^2=5+u.
 


Dick said:
You don't need parts. Your first substitution is the one to use, u = x^2-5. Notice that means x^2=5+u.

I did that, u=x^2-5, du= 2xdx, x^2=u+5 and I got :

1/2*∫(u+5)*√udu

so I multiplied and I got : 1/2*∫u^(3/2)+5u^(1/2)

1/2*1/5 * ∫u^(3/2)+u^(1/2)

and I got u^(5/2)/25+(2u^(3/2))/3 and It's wrong :/ where did I failed?

Thanks
 


ruiwp13 said:
so I multiplied and I got : 1/2*∫u^(3/2)+5u^(1/2)

1/2*1/5 * ∫u^(3/2)+u^(1/2)

Just sloppy algebra, I think. Where did the '1/5' come from?
 


Dick said:
Just sloppy algebra, I think. Where did the '1/5' come from?

To remove the 5 from 5u^(1/2)

The solution is supposed to be:

x^3/3*(u^(3/2))-2/15*(u^(5/2))+c
 


ruiwp13 said:
To remove the 5 from 5u^(1/2)

The solution is supposed to be:

x^3/3*(u^(3/2))-2/15*(u^(5/2))+c

'Remove the 5'?? I don't get it. And the given solution looks wrong as well.
 


Dick said:
Wolfram is using u^(5/2)=u*u^(3/2) and pulling out the common factor of u^(3/2).

So where is my mistake?
 
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ruiwp13 said:
So where is my mistake?

Start with 'removing the 5'. You can write u^(3/2)+5u^(1/2)=5*((1/5)*u^(3/2)+u^(1/2)). That's not (1/5)*(u^(3/2)+u^(1/2)), if that's what you meant. It's hard to tell how you are grouping things. Use more parentheses to make things clearer.
 

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