What is the Correct Calculation for Sam's Speed at the Bottom of the Slope?

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Sam's speed at the bottom of the slope is calculated using the formula v = √(2g(h-μk√(L²-h²))). After plugging in the values, a participant initially calculated a speed of 152.36 m/s, which is significantly higher than the expected 9.9 m/s from the textbook. The discussion highlights the importance of correctly applying the order of operations in calculations. Participants emphasize the need for careful evaluation when using complex formulas and calculators. Ultimately, the correct approach yields the expected speed, demonstrating the critical nature of precise mathematical execution.
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Homework Statement


Sam, whose mass is 75 kg, stands at the top of a 12-m-high, 100-m-long snow-covered slope. His skis have a coefficient of kinetic friction on snow of 0.07. If he uses his poles to get started, then glides down, what is his speed at the bottom?

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v = √(2g(h-μk√(L2-h2)))

The Attempt at a Solution


It seems as simple as plugging in the values into the equation, but my result isn't anywhere near what it should be.
From my understanding:
g = 9.8
h = 12m
L = 100m
μk = 0.07

v = √(2(9.8)(12-0.07√(1002-122))) = 152.36
152.36 m/s? That seems a bit much to me. The back of my book says that it is 9.9 m/s, but how do I get there?
What did I mess up on?
 
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defaultusername said:
v = √(2g(h-μk√(L2-h2)))
This is a very specialized formula! (Is this sort of formula supplied for you on exams?)

v = √(2(9.8)(12-0.07√(1002-122))) = 152.36
When I calculate the left side, I don't get 152.36. Make sure you are doing the calculation correctly using your calculator.
 
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Yeah we have to memorize it. I have no idea where it came from lol

When I punch it into my calculator I get the same answer. So I tried breaking it down algebraically as follows.
I still ended up with the same weird number.

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Am I plugging the values into the wrong places?
 
See if you can spot the error in going from the 3rd to the 4th line. "Order of operations" is important here.
 
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Rather than multiply, I take the 11.93th root of 9856?

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When I plug it into my calculator I get the correct answer, but I am concerned that when I do it by hand I am going to mess it up. :/
 
How would you evaluate ##9 - 2 \cdot 3##

You have a subtraction and a multiplication. Which operation should you do first?
 
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Oh! Duh!
Thank you!
 
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