What is the Correct Formula for System Acceleration to Prevent Slippage?

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The discussion centers on finding the correct formula for system acceleration to prevent slippage between a block and a trapezoidal car. The user attempts to derive the acceleration using forces acting on the block, including gravitational and frictional forces, but questions the accuracy of their calculations, particularly regarding the normal force. They seek clarification on the definitions of variables, specifically which mass corresponds to m1 and m2, and the meaning of "ff" in their equations. Other participants emphasize the importance of self-correction in homework discussions rather than providing direct answers. The conversation highlights the need for a clear understanding of the forces involved in the system.
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General question.

Homework Statement



you are given theta, μ, and both masses. Find the acceleration of the system so the block does not slip.


The Attempt at a Solution



Let m1 be the block, and m2 be the trapezoid car thing.
Let F be the applied force
I used a coord system with the x-axis along the area where the trapezoid touches the block. I came up with:

Fnet = m1 g sin θ - ff

Fnet = m1 g sin θ - u F sin theta - u m1 g cos theta = 0

Substituting for the system gives:

a = \frac{ -\mu_k m_1 g \cos\theta + m_1g\sin\theta }{\mu_k sin\theta (m_1+m_2) }

Although i think this is incorrect since i did not account for the normal force of the car onto the block. Can someone correct this?
 

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Please show your reasoning. I can see what ##\theta## and ##\mu## are, but which mass is ##m_1## and which ##m_2##? What does "ff" mean in your equations?

Since this is homework, we won't correct it for you.
What we can do is help you correct it for yourself.
 
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