I What is the difference between thrust and thrust density?

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Thrust is defined as the force produced by a propulsion unit, measured in Newtons, while thrust density refers to the thrust produced per unit area of the nozzle, measured in Newtons per square metre. Thrust density can indicate how effectively thrust is distributed over the nozzle area, with smaller nozzles potentially yielding higher thrust density for the same thrust. However, thrust density alone does not provide information about exhaust velocity or efficiency without additional data, such as the density of the exhaust stream. The discussion highlights that thrust density can be related to pressure but is not a direct measure of propulsion efficiency. Understanding these distinctions is crucial for evaluating different propulsion systems.
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The picture above has thrust density as a column and I am not too sure what that is. Can anyone explain to me what the difference between thrust and thrust density? Thank you for your answers!
 

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The clue is in the table headings.
  • "Thrust" is measured in Newtons.
  • "Nozzle exit area" is measured in square metres.
  • "Thrust density" is measured in Newtons per square metre.
It shouldn't be too difficult to work it out from that.
 
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DrGreg said:
The clue is in the table headings.
  • "Thrust" is measured in Newtons.
  • "Nozzle exit area" is measured in square metres.
  • "Thrust density" is measured in Newtons per square metre.
It shouldn't be too difficult to work it out from that.

Ahh! So its the thrust produced per m2 of the nozzle area. Therefore that means that if you had nozzle "A" that has a surface area of 0.5m2 with a thrust of 10 Newtons and Nozzle "B" that has a surface area of 1m2 with a thrust of 10Newtons. Nozzle "A" is producing more thrust density?

Am I wrong in classifying thrust density as an efficiency of the given propulsion unit?
 
AdrianHudson said:
Ahh! So its the thrust produced per m2 of the nozzle area. Therefore that means that if you had nozzle "A" that has a surface area of 0.5m2 with a thrust of 10 Newtons and Nozzle "B" that has a surface area of 1m2 with a thrust of 10Newtons. Nozzle "A" is producing more thrust density?

Am I wrong in classifying thrust density as an efficiency of the given propulsion unit?
Not really. It has units of force per unit area or, equivalently, of energy per unit volume. But unless you are also given something like the density (mass per unit volume) of the exhaust stream, it cannot tell you the exhaust velocity.

You could, for instance, have an ion drive with an ultra high exhaust velocity (very mass-efficient and very energy-inefficient). The exhaust stream would also be very sparse and would likely have a low thrust density.
 
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DrGreg said:
  • "Thrust density" is measured in Newtons per square metre.

So it's pressure?

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