What is the equilibrium force on a weight down a slope?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a weight on a frictionless slope and the forces acting on it, particularly focusing on the equilibrium force measured by spring scales. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the calculations related to the weight component acting down the slope.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the method for calculating the component of the weight force acting down the slope, with some suggesting the use of the cosine formula. Questions arise about the relevance of horizontal forces and the correct interpretation of the spring scale readings.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing hints and clarifications regarding the calculations. There is a mix of confusion and attempts to guide the original poster towards a clearer understanding of the problem setup and the forces involved.

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The original poster mentions a specific numerical answer that seems inconsistent with their calculations, indicating possible misunderstandings about the problem's setup or the physics principles involved.

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Homework Statement


I have attached a picture of the problem to this thread, I am having trouble with part c. I am getting an answer which is much larger than 24.5N

The systems shown in the figures are in equilibrium. If the spring scales are
calibrated in Newtons, what do they read? (assume the incline in part (c) is frictionless.)

Homework Equations


Fw = mg

The Attempt at a Solution


I have attempted the solution and worked out the component of the weight force acting down the slope using Fw = mg / sin(30) = 49 / sin (30) = 98 N
 

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Hi bettysuarez! Welcome to PF! :smile:

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bettysuarez said:
I have attempted the solution and worked out the component of the weight force acting down the slope using Fw = mg / sin(30) = 49 / sin (30) = 98 N

You seem to finding the hypotenuse of a vector triangle :confused:

they don't work that way! (not without a horizontal force :wink:).​

Just use the usual cosine formula for a component. :smile:
 
Sorry, I'm still a bit confused... The 5 kg weight is on a 30˚ slope and the spring scale is on the slope as well. How am I supposed to work out a horizontal force? Is that the force that will be recorded by the spring scale?

Thank you!
 
bettysuarez said:
Sorry, I'm still a bit confused... The 5 kg weight is on a 30˚ slope and the spring scale is on the slope as well. How am I supposed to work out a horizontal force? Is that the force that will be recorded by the spring scale?

No, I was saying that there's no horizontal force! :smile:

Just use the cosine formula. :wink:
 
Hint:

The horizontal weight is equal to the weight times the cosine of the angle of incline...
 
bleedblue1234 said:
Hint:

The horizontal weight is equal to the weight times the cosine of the angle of incline...

erm :redface:

… no such thing as horizontal weight! :confused:
 

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