What is the force between two point charges at a 45 degree angle?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the force between two point charges, q1 and q2, positioned at a 45-degree angle. The participants derive the force components using unit vectors and Coulomb's law, confirming that the force from q1 to q2 is expressed as positive components while the force from q2 to q1 is negative. They clarify that the magnitude of the force can be calculated using F = k(q1)(q2)/r^2, with specific values provided for q1 and q2. The importance of sign conventions in the calculations is emphasized, particularly regarding attraction between the charges. Overall, the calculations and concepts align correctly with the principles of electrostatics.
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Point charges q1 and q2 are placed in space, with q1 at the origin and q2 a distance r from q1 making a 45 degree angle with the horizontal.
a) Find the force using unit vectors i and j from q1 to q2
b) " " from q2 to q1
c) If q1=q2, what is the magnitude of the force?

so far i have:

q2:
Fx = F cos (theta)
Fy = F sin (theta) - so F(1on2) = F cos(theta) i + F sin (theta) j

am I on the right track? and would F(2on1) be -F(1on2)?
 

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jimithing said:
q2:
Fx = F cos (theta)
Fy = F sin (theta) - so F(1on2) = F cos(theta) i + F sin (theta) j
Why use F to represent the force? Use Coulomb's law and write "F" in terms of q1, q2, and r. Remember: signs matter.

and would F(2on1) be -F(1on2)?
Yes.
 
so for 1 on 2:
Fx = k(q1)(q2)cos(theta)/r^2 i
Fy = k(q1)(q2)sin(theta)/r^2 j
2 on 1
Fx = -k(q1)(q2)cos(theta)/r^2 i
Fy = -k(q1)(q2)sin(theta)/r^2 j

Part (c) when q1=q2=5 x 10^-6 C and r = 2.0 m

sub values into:
F = k (q1)(q2)/r^2 or F = kq^2/r^2

am i correct?
 
You are right!

jimithing said:
so for 1 on 2:
Fx = k(q1)(q2)cos(theta)/r^2 i
Fy = k(q1)(q2)sin(theta)/r^2 j
2 on 1
Fx = -k(q1)(q2)cos(theta)/r^2 i
Fy = -k(q1)(q2)sin(theta)/r^2 j
You are correct!
Part (c) when q1=q2=5 x 10^-6 C and r = 2.0 m

sub values into:
F = k (q1)(q2)/r^2 or F = kq^2/r^2

am i correct?
Sounds good to me.

Edit: I messed up the signs before! You are correct. :smile:
 
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Doc Al said:
If the magnitude of the total force is F, where F = k(q1)(q2)/r^2,
then the components of the force on q1 are positive:
Fx = F cos(theta); Fy = F sin(theta)
and the components of the force on q2 are negative:
Fx = -F cos(theta); Fy = -F sin(theta)

Sounds good to me.
wouldn't the force of q1 on q2 be positive on the coordinate system used?
 
ok, assuming they attract.
got it.
 
jimithing said:
wouldn't the force of q1 on q2 be positive on the coordinate system used?
Right. I messed up the signs before. (Funny... I was telling you to be careful of signs and I goofed up! :blush: )

Good work!
 
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