What is the force the pole exerts on the ball?

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The discussion revolves around two physics problems involving forces and friction. The first problem involves a tether ball leaning against a post, while the second problem concerns a box on a board on a frictionless surface, focusing on the forces required to move the board without moving the box.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss drawing free body diagrams to account for forces and angles in the first problem. In the second problem, there is a focus on understanding the conditions under which static friction is overcome. Some participants express uncertainty about their approaches and seek clarification on specific steps.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants attempting to clarify their reasoning and approaches. Some guidance has been offered regarding the importance of free body diagrams and the need to show work for better assistance. There is an acknowledgment of difficulties in both problems, but no consensus has been reached.

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Participants note missing information and assumptions in their attempts to solve the problems, particularly regarding the forces involved in the second problem. There is a mention of the need to consider the length of the rope in the first problem.

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A tether ball leans against the post to which it is attached. The string is attached to the ball such that a line along the string passes through the center of the ball. The string to which the ball is attached has length 1.50 m and the ball's radius is 0.105 m and has a mass of 0.266 kg . Neglect any friction between the ball and the pole.

What is the force the pole exerts on the ball?

I found the Tension in the rope to be 2.61 N, and mulitpling that times the sin of the angle i got .183 N the answer is incorrect.

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A small box of mass m1 is sitting on a board of mass m2 and length L. The board rests on a frictionless horizontal surface. The coefficient of static friction between the board and the box is U_s. The coefficient of kinetic friction between the board and the box is, as usual, less than U_s.

Throughout the problem, use g for the magnitude of the acceleration due to gravity. In the hints, use Ft for the magnitude of the friction force between the board and the box.

Find F(minimum) , the constant force with the least magnitude that must be applied to the board in order to pull the board out from under the the box (which will then fall off of the opposite end of the board).

I can't find any example of this one in my book, i must be missing forces. I tried doing each of the masses separately in relation to what they are on top of, but I am not getting it.


Thank you in advance for any help :)
 
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How did you go about trying to solve these problems?

For your first one, the thing to do will be to draw a free body diagram and account for all the forces, and angles too (though I don't see any in your original write up). If you put up some work then maybe some one can find where you went wrong.

For this next problem you are trying to solve for when the sum of the forces is greater than static friction, such that the box on top slips away. Again, it's hard to know where you are having difficulties without seeing the approach you take.
 
nevermind on the first one, i wasn't taking into consideration the length of the rope plus the ball for the denominator.

Can anyone point me in the right direction for the second one?
 
Show us explicitly what you've tried so far. Then someone can probably point out where your problem is. It's much more efficient than for us to shoot blindly in the dark and hope we hit upon your problem! :smile:
 

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