What is the frequence of radiation that the proton will absorb?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the frequency of radiation absorbed by a proton transitioning from parallel to antiparallel states in a magnetic field. The initial approach involved using the equation E = mu * B and relating it to frequency via Planck's constant, but the solution was incorrect due to a missing multiplicative factor. Participants suggest that the energy required for the transition can be determined by integrating the work done against the magnetic field, considering the angle between the magnetic moment and the field. The correct energy expression involves evaluating the integral of the force over the angle from 0 to pi, leading to the conclusion that E = mu * B * 2. The final frequency can then be expressed in terms of this energy and Planck's constant.
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Homework Statement



If protons with magnetic moment mu in the z direction are in a strong magnetic field of magnitude B in the z direction, what is the frequency f of radiation that will be absorbed by the proton as it transitions from parallel to antiparallel states?
Express your answer in terms of mu, B , and Planck's constant h .


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E = mu * B
h*f= mu * B
f = (mu * B)h

but I got wrong..
the feedback says that my answer is off by multiplicative factor..

please help me..
thanks..
 
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you're on the right track.
Its going to take a certain amount of energy to flip the proton, which you can relate to the frequency.
I think, you're going to have to find the Energy (E) required by integrating the work that needs to be done to flip it. The force that the magnetic field exerts on the proton will be B cross mu (i.e. zero force when they're parallel and maximum force when they're perpendicular). express the cross product in terms of some angle between the magnetic moment direction and the B field direction, then integrate over the angle to find the total work.
Work = Force times distance, or more accurately integral of Force dx (dx = differential element of distance, in this case, dtheta).
Does that make sense?
 
ehm.. why does this has to do with force and work?
the angle between magnetic moment and B field would be zero because both of them are in the z direction.
 
both start in the Z direction, but to get the proton from parallel to antiparallel it has to go from theta = 0 , to theta = pi. the energy required to perform this flip, is the energy difference between the two states.
We know from elementary physics that the change in energy = the work = the integral over force. we know the force, so we can find the change in energy, which leads to the answer.
 
so f = (mu*B*cos pi)/h ?
 
i can't remember if you multiply or divide by h; and also you need to evaluate between 0 and pi, not just at pi. i.e. mu*B (cos 0 - cospi)
 
I really appreciate that you help me.. but I'm totally confused..
 
so, the force F = mu*B*sin t (where t = the angle theta).
energy E = integral of F dt evaluated from 0 to pi (the initial angle zero, to the final angle pi). Also, like you said, E = hf

E = Int [ mu*B*sin t] dt = mu*b*cos t (but we have to now evaluate t at the 2 end points, 0 and pi - that's how to take an integral).
E = mu*b*[(cos pi) - (cos 0)] so you plug in the end points, and subtract the 1st from the second ---> cos pi - cos 0 = - 2 (and you can ignore the negative sign legitimately, but we shouldn't bother getting into the reasoning)
so E = mu*b*2.
does that make sense?
 
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