What is the Indefinite Integral of [(e^(4x))/(e^(8x))+9]dx?

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the indefinite integral of the expression \(\left[\frac{e^{4x}}{e^{8x}} + 9\right]dx\). Participants are exploring various substitution methods and integration techniques in the context of calculus.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants suggest different substitutions, such as \(u = e^{2x}\) and \(u = e^{4x}\), and discuss the implications of these choices. There are attempts to simplify the integral and questions about the correctness of the substitutions. Some participants express confusion regarding integration by parts and taking antiderivatives of fractions.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their thoughts and approaches. Some have provided partial solutions or corrections, while others are still grappling with the problem and seeking clarification on specific steps and concepts.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the setup of the integral and the methods to apply, with participants questioning their assumptions and the validity of their approaches. Some posts reflect uncertainty about the correct interpretation of the integral's components.

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Evaluate the indefinite integral:

[(e^(4x))/(e^(8x))+9]dx

-I think that u=e^(2x)
so then du=e^(2x)dx
then the answer would end up being [(e^(4x)+9)/(-1)]^(-1)

but it was incorrect; I think that my u might be wrong and that's where the problem is, but I am not sure. Please help, thank you!
 
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\int (\frac{e^{4x}}{e^{8x}}+9)dx ?
\int (e^{4x-8x}+9)dx = - \frac{1}{4}e^{-4x}+9x

or as

\int (\frac{e^{4x}}{e^{8x}+9})dx ?
u=e^{8x}+9
du=8e^{8x}
and then i don't know how to solve this =D
If that's what you were asking, you got a tough one.
[still thinking]

It looks like an integration by parts question, or I am sleepy and can't see the answer D=
But integration by parts doesn't work in my case still...
 
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correction on problem

the second part is the one that we need help on...thank you!
 
u=e^{4x}
du=4e^{4x}

<br /> \frac{1}{4} \int(\frac{1}{u^{2}+3^{2}})du <br />

Can you finish it from there?
 
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exk said:
u=e^{4x}
du=4e^{4x}

<br /> \frac{1}{4} \int(\frac{1}{u^{2}+3^{2}})du <br />

Can you finish it from there?

As I was saying.. I must've been smoking something...
 
I always get confused when taking antiderivatives of fractions...how do I go about doing that?
 
MillerL7 said:
I always get confused when taking antiderivatives of fractions...how do I go about doing that?

natural log?
 
So, I ended up with 1/4lnabs((e^4x)^(2))+9) and got it wrong, what am I doing incorrectly?
 
\int\frac{1}{u^{2}+a^{2}}=\frac{1}{a}tan^{-1}(\frac{u}{a})+C
 

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