What is the Magnitude of the Force on a Wire in a Uniform Magnetic Field?

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To find the magnitude of the force on a wire in a uniform magnetic field, the formula F = IL x B is used, where I is the current, L is the length vector of the wire, and B is the magnetic field vector. A current of 3.1 A flows through a wire segment of length 0.0640 m in a magnetic field of 0.9 T. The correct approach involves calculating the cross product of the vectors, which results in a force vector of -0.1395 N. The magnitude of this force is 0.1395 N, emphasizing that the components from the cross product cannot be simply added together. Understanding vector operations is crucial for solving such problems correctly.
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A current of 3.1 A flows in a straight wire segment length (4 cm)i + (5 cm)j in a uniform magnetic field of strength (0.9 T) i. Find the magnitude of the force on the wire. Answer in units of N.
First I found the magnitude of the length of the wire, \sqrt .04^2 +.05^2 = .0640 m.
Then I used the equation F= IL x B
(3.1)(.0640)(.09)= .0179 N
This isn't right.. I don't really know how to do these problems when both the field and length have directions.. can someone please help?
 
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Can someone please help me?
 
The x in F=ILxB is a cross product, not a simple multiplication. It multiplies vectors, not numbers. Look up how to do a "cross product".
 
Ok so when I do the cross product, I get -.01395. Then if I multiply it by the current, 3.1 A, so I get .01395, since they want the magnitude.. which still isnt' right...
 
Punchlinegirl said:
Ok so when I do the cross product, I get -.01395. Then if I multiply it by the current, 3.1 A, so I get .01395, since they want the magnitude.. which still isnt' right...

Can you show how you do a cross product? Your answer for the cross product is incorrect (and I am not sure how you got 3.1 times .01395 =0.01395)

Pat
 
I did
i j
.04 .05
.09 0
so .04*0 = 0
.09 * .05 = .0045
0-.0045= -.0045

Then -.0045 * 3.1 = .01395, since it's absolute value
 
Punchlinegirl said:
I did
i j
.04 .05
.09 0
so .04*0 = 0
.09 * .05 = .0045
0-.0045= -.0045

Then -.0045 * 3.1 = .01395, since it's absolute value

First, why do you use 0.09 for B? It's 0.9.
Also, it seems like you treat th eresult of the cross product as if it was a bunch of numbers to be added together. You cannot do that, a cross product gives a vector!

{\vec L} \times {\vec B} = (.04m {\vec i} + 0.05m {\vec j}) \times (0.9 T{\vec i}) = -0.045 T \cdot m {\vec k}
So the force will be -0.1395 N {\vec k}

Edit: and of course the *magnitude* of the force will be 0.1395 N. My point was that the difefrent terms obtained from the cross product can't simply be added together.
 
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