What Is the Mass of the Late Arrival in the Hot-Air Balloon?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the mass of a late arrival in a hot-air balloon that is initially neutrally buoyant with a total weight of 1220 kg. Participants suggest using Newton's second law (F=ma) to compare the forces before and after the person's arrival. The upthrust force is calculated as 12919.8 N based on the initial conditions. It is confirmed that the balloon's initial state is stable, leading to the conclusion that the upthrust equals the weight of the basket and people before the late arrival. The conversation emphasizes the need to set up equations for both scenarios to find the mass of the last person.
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Homework Statement


For a birthday gift, you and some friends take a hot-air balloon ride. One friend is late, so the balloon floats a couple of feet off the ground as you wait. Before this person arrives, the combined weight of the basket and people is 1220 kg , and the balloon is neutrally buoyant. When the late arrival climbs up into the basket, the balloon begins to accelerate downward at 0.59m/s2 .What was the mass of the last person to climb aboard?


Homework Equations


F=ma



The Attempt at a Solution


do I need to find the net force before and after the last person's arrival?then compare those 2 equations to get the last person's mass? could somebody give me a clue how to approach this kind of a problem?

Thanks in advance.
 
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On the air balloon there are two forces, weight (downwards) and upthrust (upwards) .

So yes, you need to compare before (which will give you the upthrust) and then after to get the person's mass.
 
so would the 1st equation be??
upthrust (F_u) - Wt of the basket & people (W) = mass (m). acceleration (a)
F_u - 1220 * 9.81 = 1220 * 0.59
Therefore F_u = 12919.8 N

would the 2nd equation be??
F_u - (1220+mass of last person)g = (1220+mass of last person)a

am I in right way ...? if not could you please help me?

Thanks again...
 
pttest said:
so would the 1st equation be??
upthrust (F_u) - Wt of the basket & people (W) = mass (m). acceleration (a)
F_u - 1220 * 9.81 = 1220 * 0.59
Therefore F_u = 12919.8 N

I think F_U -W =0 since before the other person jumps into the basket it is just hovering. The second equation is correct.
 
The first equation is Fu-Wt=0 ,because at the beginning the acceleration is zero, because "the balloon is neutrally buoyant" at the beginning.
 
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