What is the maximum charge on plates when dielectric removed

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The discussion revolves around calculating the maximum charge a capacitor can hold when the dielectric material is removed and replaced with air. The initial breakdown voltage with nylon is 5.80 kV, and the maximum electric field for nylon is 14 MV/m, leading to a calculated plate separation of approximately 0.00041429 m. Once the nylon is removed, the electric field drops to 3 MV/m, resulting in a new voltage of about 1242.87 V. The capacitance is calculated as 1.89 x 10^-8 F, leading to a charge of 0.0000235 C. The main issue identified was a misunderstanding in converting the area from cm² to m², which was crucial for accurate calculations.
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Homework Statement


A capacitor with two parallel plates of area 88.5 cm2 and nylon (dielectric strength 14 MV/m) inserted between them breaks down when a potential difference of 5.80 kV is applied. What is the maximum charge the plates will hold when the nylon is removed and the space filled with air (dielectric strength 3 MV/m)?

Homework Equations


Q = CΔV
ΔV = Ed
Co = εoA/d
Coκ = εoAκ/d
E = Eo/κ

The Attempt at a Solution


The maximum electric field with the nylon inserted is 14 MV/m. ΔV = Ed and we have 5800 V applied.
Solving for d gives d = 0.00041429 m.

The maximum electric field once the nylon removed is 3 MV/m. ΔV = Ed.
Solving for ΔV gives ΔV = 1242.87 V.

C = εoA/d gives C= 1.89*10^-8 F.

Q = CΔV = (1.89*10^-8 F)(1242.87 V) = 0.0000235 C.

The online assignment page is rejecting my answer. Where am I going wrong?
 
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Did you correctly convert cm2 to m2?

Why did 10-8 change to 10-12 for C in the calculation of Q?
 
Sorry the 10^-12 was a typo. Indeed when I did the calculation I used 10^-8 for C. Also I converted cm^2 to m^2 and converted MV and kV to volts.
 
What did you get for the area after you converted to m2?
 
88.5 cm^2 = 0.885 m^2
 
akirez said:
88.5 cm^2 = 0.885 m^2
This is not correct. Note that you are converting square centimeters.
 
Wow. That flew right over my head. That was my problem. Thanks so much for your help!
 
Good work.
 
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