What Is the Maximum Frequency of Sound in Aluminium?

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The discussion focuses on estimating the maximum frequency and minimum wavelength of sound waves in aluminum, utilizing its mass density, Young's modulus, and atomic weight. The wave equation is applied, leading to the relationship between frequency and the wave number, with the formula f = (k/2π)√(Y/ρ). Participants express confusion about calculating the wave number (k) and the implications of wavelength potentially being shorter than interatomic distances. Clarifications are provided, indicating that the approach was more straightforward than initially perceived. The conversation emphasizes the connection between frequency, wavelength, and material properties in aluminum.
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Homework Statement



"Estimate the highest possible frequency (in Hertz) and the smallest possible wavelength, of a sound wave in aluminium due to the discrete atomic structure of this material. The mass density, Young's modulus, and atomic weight of aluminium are 2.7x103kg m-3, 6x1010 N m-2, and 27 respectively.

Homework Equations



Second partial of Ψ(x,t) WRT t = second partial of Ψ(x,t) WRT x multiplied by (Young's modulus / mass density)

The Attempt at a Solution



Assuming the mode will follow the form

Ψ(x,t) = Acos(kx)cos(ωt - φ)

then the second partial WRT t will be

Ψ''(x,t) = -ω2Acos(kx)cos(ωt - φ)

and the second partial WRT x will be

Ψ''(x,t) = -k2Acos(kx)cos(ωt - φ)

Plugging into wave equation I get

2Acos(kx)cos(ωt - φ) = -c2k2Acos(kx)cos(ωt - φ)

--> ω2 = κ2(Y/ρ)

--> ω = k(Y/ρ)1/2

--> 2\pi f = k(Y/ρ)1/2

--> f = \frac{k}{2\pi} \sqrt{\frac{Y}{\rho}}

Have no clue where to go from here. This may not even be the way to go about doing it. I guess I technically have the Young's modulus and mass density for the problem but I do not know how to calculate k, and don't understand how this system could vary in frequency to find the highest possible one. Any help would be appreciated, thanks. (Sorry, that I suck a latex btw)
 
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Highest frequency is shortest wavelength. Can the wavelength be shorter than the interatomic distance?
 
kuruman said:
Highest frequency is shortest wavelength. Can the wavelength be shorter than the interatomic distance?

Whoops, forgot to reply. Yes, thank you, I understand where I was going wrong now, it was much simpler than I tried to make out to be. Thanks again!
 
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