What is the maximum torque on a square shaped wire with given parameters?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the maximum torque on a square-shaped wire given specific parameters, including the number of turns, length, resistance, magnetic field strength, and angular velocity. The initial calculations yield a maximum torque of 2.6 x 10^-5 Nm, but questions arise regarding the inclusion of the term ω/R in the current equation. Participants clarify that the torque equation must account for time-varying factors, suggesting that the torque should include a sin(θ)cos(θ) term for accuracy. The importance of deriving the general equation for torque before determining its maximum value is emphasized. Overall, the conversation highlights the complexities involved in accurately calculating torque in electromagnetic systems.
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Homework Statement


Find the maximum torque on a square shaped wire provided N=120; l=4cm;R=10##\Omega##; B=0.2 T ; ##\omega=200 revs/sec##

Homework Equations


##\tau=IaBsin(\theta)##
##\epsilon=\frac{d}{dt}\Phi##

The Attempt at a Solution


##i=\frac{\epsilon}{R}=-\frac{\frac{d}{dt} (BAcos\omega t)}{R}##
##i_{max}=\frac{NBA\omega}{R}##
##\tau=il^2 B sin(\omega t)##
##\tau_{max}=il^2B = 2.6x10^-5 Nm##

This solution depends on the fact that my area vector is initially parallel to the magnetic field.
 
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Shouldn't it be since
the torque on the coil is τ = BANi and i = BANω/R we have that
∴ τ = (BAN)2ω/R
= 29,5x10-3 Nm
?
 
I don't see why the term ##\omega/R## is in there (the equation for current). Could you please explain? thanks
 
davidbenari said:
##i=\frac{\epsilon}{R}=-\frac{\frac{d}{dt} (BAcos\omega t)}{R}##
##i_{max}=\frac{NBA\omega}{R}##
##\tau=il^2 B sin(\omega t)##
##\tau_{max}=il^2B = 2.6x10^-5 Nm##
This is not valid. It is not the case that ##\tau(t)=i_{max}l^2 B sin(\omega t)##. You cannot take the max value until you have the general equation for ##\tau(t)##.
 
But you also have it ? ... i = emf/R = NBAω {sin(θ)} /R
That is the emf is the time derivative of the magnetic flux is NBAω sin(θ)
I think what haruspex is saying is that there is another time varying term
for the torque. So you have a sin(θ)cos(θ) term in the general equation for the torque?
 
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