What is the minimum force required to keep two cables taut at a given point?

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The discussion revolves around determining the minimum force required to keep two cables taut at a point, with a focus on the conditions under which the tension in each cable remains positive. The problem involves analyzing forces and tensions in a static equilibrium context.

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  • Participants discuss the implications of the force P on the tension in the cables, with some suggesting that P must be greater than zero to maintain tension. Others raise questions about the effects of varying P on the stability of point A.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the problem, with participants offering hints and discussing the need to resolve forces into components. Some guidance has been provided regarding the conditions for tension in the cables, but no consensus has been reached on specific values or methods.

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Participants note the importance of understanding the balance of forces and the implications of different magnitudes of P, as well as the relevance of the weight acting on point A. There is an acknowledgment of the learning curve associated with the problem.

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The cables are tied at A and loaed as shown
Determine the range of values of P for which both cables remain taut !
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I have an idea on the AC rope. Since the tension force T must not be zero on the horizontal line (or the line along AC), therefore, the min force of P > 0. Because when P>0, the horizontal component is not zero. Is it true? How about AB
 
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Hi fociboy ! Welcome to PF! :smile:

If P is too small, the 960N weight will pull A toward the wall.

If P is too large, it will pull A upward.

Hint: the question is really asking you find the formulas for the tension in each cable.

Then you choose the values for which the tension in either cable is zero. :smile:
 
Dear tiny-tim,
I've known how to solve it. We resolve all the force into x and y component. And determine the conditions that the tension force on the rope is more than zero
 
Hi fociboy! :smile:
fociboy said:
Dear tiny-tim,
I've known how to solve it. We resolve all the force into x and y component. And determine the conditions that the tension force on the rope is more than zero

(you mean I know how to solve it, or I've found how to solve it :wink:)

That's right … resolve into components. :smile:

Is everything ok now?
 
I see. But you know, I've started studying in university and there're still a lot of things to know. I hope I can join and become an active member of the forum. Thanks :)
 

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