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[Evo]

Time to start a new thread.

Here is the last page of part 5.

https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/random-thoughts-part-5.851969/page-134

 

[Evo]

Let's all applaud the History Channel for more fine documentaries! Tonight - Time Beings: Extreme Time Travel Conspiracies

Why? Why can't we have real documentaries? There is so much of interest in the past that is REAL.

 

[fresh_42]

Let's all applaud the History Channel for more fine documentaries! Tonight - Time Beings: Extreme Time Travel Conspiracies

Why? Why can't we have real documentaries? There is so much of interest in the past that is REAL.

And National Geographic has been sold to Fox ...

 

[Evo]

And National Geographic has been sold to Fox ...

NOOOOOOOOOOOO, are you kidding??

OMG! Well, that would explain some of the recent programming.



I have no faith in this world anymore. The daft have the normal outnumbered by so many, the normal are now the abnormal.

 

[Pepper Mint]

Who are you ? How come your friends are all VIPs ?

 

[Ibix]

Let's all applaud the History Channel for more fine documentaries! Tonight - Time Beings

According to an old Star Trek book there is only one Time Being, who is a blubbery lazy creature because everyone does things for it all the time...

 

[Garlic]

National geographic was already showing stuff like alien stories, and I could feel it was slowly turning into the discovery channel. I don't think there will be much difference if it was sold to fox (No offense natgeo fans)

 

[collinsmark]

Hang in there, @Evo. I'm confident that logic (and genuine human curiosity & critical thinking) will win out eventually. Then again, I'm an optimist.

 

[Ibix]

So I finally get far enough down my to-do list to investigate why the extractor fan in the hood over our kitchen cooker doesn't work too well. Maybe the inlet filter is clogged? I'll just pop off the inlet cover and... oh. Inside the inlet, blocking most of the duct leading to the actual fan, is a polythene bag containing the installation instructions and guarantee.

Problem solved.

 

[fresh_42]

Problem solved.

Congrats! But the interesting question is, however, was it one of the funny manuals translated from somewhere into English that contains one funny language construction after the other?

 

[Ibix]

Most of it is in good English. There is one sheet of 1:1 scale "drill here" diagrams labelled in English, French, German, Spanish, Italian and what I think is Dutch.

 

[fresh_42]

Most of it is in good English. There is one sheet of 1:1 scale "drill here" diagrams labelled in English, French, German, Spanish, Italian and what I think is Dutch.

Like this?

My tea / café / Kaffee / el tinto / caffé / koffie!

 

[Pepper Mint]

What ? Irresistible,,,

 

[WWGD]

It seems Lions do not eat their own, i.e., Lions do not swallow their pride.

 

[JorisL]

It seems Lions do not eat their own, i.e., Lions do not swallow their pride.

Wrong topic ;-)

 

[wolram]

NOOOOOOOOOOOO, are you kidding??

OMG! Well, that would explain some of the recent programming.



I have no faith in this world anymore. The daft have the normal outnumbered by so many, the normal are now the abnormal.

Amen to that Evo.

 

[WWGD]

Is there a serious case of underemployment? For some reason delis seem to be cutting sandwiches made with square bread halfway through one side of the bread, instead of cutting the sandwich diagonally, which is the way I remember it. I asked this person why the halfway cut instead of the diagonal one and he replied: it is wrong; a diagonal cut provides more exposed surface than the half cut, by Pythagoras' theorem. Wow, a person cutting sandwiches knows how to apply Pythagoras and he can't find a better, higher-paying job?

 

[WWGD]

I was thrown off by a question while tutoring, around an hour ago. Sharp kid, while doing the standard proof of the infinitude of primes, the student asked me: if we did not consider 2 to be a prime, how would we change the proof, since the product $p_1p_2...p_k +1$ will always be even? I will just tell him that I leave it as an exercise for him. EDIT: I just suggested that we may just add 2 to the product , instead of one, but I am feeling too lazy to make this into a through argument.

 

[fresh_42]

I guess it won't work with adding 2. If 2 were not prime then you would have the divisors of 2 in each summand and you would again need to add 1 in an additional step. (However, I'm lazy, too. Maybe I'm wrong.)

 

[Garlic]

I just realized that the PF symbol in the internet browser looks just like the PDG symbol.

 

[ProfuselyQuarky]

I just realized that the PF symbol in the internet browser looks just like the PDG symbol.
View attachment 102003

And I just realized that your browser is as cluttered as mine But, yeah, those favicons really do look similar.

A sign of multitasking?

 

[Garlic]

And I just realized that your browser is as cluttered as mine But, yeah, those favicons really do look similar.

Usually I have up to 20 tabs open when I'm looking for something.. I don't close older tabs when I'm openning another one.

A sign of multitasking?

I don't think so. I can't even read a book while listenning to music. My brain works doing only one task at a time

 

[WWGD]

I guess it won't work with adding 2. If 2 were not prime then you would have the divisors of 2 in each summand and you would again need to add 1 in an additional step. (However, I'm lazy, too. Maybe I'm wrong.)

Well, two is an exception in that it has no proper divisors but it is still not consider a prime because it sort of is a prime by default. So it is prime because it has to, though it has no divisors. Pretty contrived.

 

[fresh_42]

Well, two is an exception in that it has no proper divisors but it is still not consider a prime because it sort of is a prime by default. So it is prime because it has to, though it has no divisors. Pretty contrived.

You mean in the same way like bananas are the least fruits among all fruits?

 

[Ibix]

Well, two is an exception in that it has no proper divisors but it is still not consider a prime because it sort of is a prime by default. So it is prime because it has to, though it has no divisors. Pretty contrived.

If we're asserting that 2 isn't prime, what are the prime factors of even numbers? Particularly powers of 2? That's the point I'd raise.

 

[Pepper Mint]

Things about human brain act like magical forces. The more I read about them, the sleepier I become. Well probably because I don't understand a thing about them.

 

[zoobyshoe]

your reply...

 

[fresh_42]

If we're asserting that 2 isn't prime, what are the prime factors of even numbers? Particularly powers of 2? That's the point I'd raise.

Couldn't we erase $2$ from the list of primes if we simply take $\mathbb{Z}[\sqrt{2}]$? Ok, $\sqrt{2}$ would become the new black, but at least it won't be even.

 

[Sophia]

It's completely normal and understandable when a person makes mistakes while trying to speak in a foreign language.

But what's your reaction when you hear a healthy adult native speaker without any learning disability use incorrect grammar or vocab? Or worse, you see such mistakes in written text.
Does it drive you crazy, do you feel the need to correct them or do you remain silent? Or maybe it doesn't bother you at all?

 

[Pepper Mint]

...
But what's your reaction when you hear a healthy adult native speaker without any learning disability use incorrect grammar or vocab? Or worse, you see such mistakes in written text.
Does it drive you crazy, do you feel the need to correct them or do you remain silent? Or maybe it doesn't bother you at all?

I would definitely keep silent myself, because silence speaks louder than words.
I like abstract math and calculus on hyper dimensions. I think I learned a lot from my Canadian professor. She was such a great singer who I believe can definitely kill a murder of crows with only one stone.

 

[fresh_42]

Does it drive you crazy, do you feel the need to correct them or do you remain silent? Or maybe it doesn't bother you at all?

It is depending on the circumstances: age, kind of debate, content, and so on.
E.g. I had a commentary debate on FB with someone with - to say the least - a rather nationalistic opinion. His statements were full of mistakes. Of course I mocked him on this discrepancy.

 

[Psinter]

Looks like problems for pale people:

Spoiler

Source

I must say, I'm not pale, but I'm not super dark either and my face gets red sometimes. So yup, if I'm not pale and I get red sometimes (under temperatures of over 96F after walking 20 minutes under the sun), I can understand the struggle.

And some funny pals messing with each other.

 

[ProfuselyQuarky]

And some funny pals messing with each other.

You like Pigeon Gazette, too?!

 

[Psinter]

You like Pigeon Gazette, too?!

Yup. You have seen them too? Cool. I discovered it today and it's awesome. I've been reading a few of them and I can totally relate .

The artist is definitely awesome.

 

[ProfuselyQuarky]

Yup. You have seen them too? Cool. I discovered it today and it's awesome. I've been reading a few of them and I can totally relate .

The artist is definitely awesome.

I knew about Jane within the same month she started posting comics It's truly hilarious. Another one to try is Owlturd (http://owlturd.com/).

 

[fresh_42]

I must say, I'm not pale, but I'm not super dark either ...

In former times it has been achievable to be as pale as possible, because it meant you were wealthy enough not to be forced to work outside like farmers were.
Nowadays it seems to be the opposite for exactly the same reason: Being tanned means you're wealthy enough to spend expensive holidays or spare time in the sun.

I still prefer the pale version. I don't mind what it means in terms of wealth. To me it simply means that it try to avoid melanoma of all kind.

 

[ProfuselyQuarky]

By the way, what's the main language spoke in Belgium? French, Dutch, or German?

 

[Psinter]

I knew about Jane within the same month she started posting comics It's truly hilarious. Another one to try is Owlturd (http://owlturd.com/).

Oh I had seen a few of those. Now I know the source of the artist. I just watched a few under that link and they are also funny .

Nowadays it seems to be the opposite for exactly the same reason: Being tanned means you're wealthy enough to spend expensive holidays or spare time in the sun.

In my daily life, time under the sun is a requirement everyday and spare time would be time not under the sun .

 

[Sophia]

Looks like problems for pale people:

Spoiler

Source

I must say, I'm not pale, but I'm not super dark either and my face gets red sometimes. So yup, if I'm not pale and I get red sometimes (under temperatures of over 96F after walking 20 minutes under the sun), I can understand the struggle.

And some funny pals messing with each other.

That's me. I'm either pale or red. :-) there's no middle option. I like sunny weather but I don't enjoy being in the direct sun for a long time.
And when I return from a holiday and people say "oh you were on holiday? You are still so pale!"
I'm like I went there to rest, not to roast

 

[fresh_42]

By the way, what's the main language spoke in Belgium? French, Dutch, or German?

40% - 60% - < 1% and a few speak letzebergisch (Luxembourg) which isn't an official language. However, meanwhile arabic and turkey might have a significant ratio. At least they (Morrocans and Turks) outnumber the other minorities.

 

[Psinter]

That's me. I'm either pale or red. :-) there's no middle option. I like sunny weather but I don't enjoy being in the direct sun for a long time.
And when I return from a holiday and people say "oh you were on holiday? You are still so pale!"
I'm like I went there to rest, not to roast

(◠‿◠)

This sun is killing hot. At my place you can't hide from it unless you enter the forest. Otherwise it will find you and burn you . Hello human, we are a bunch of photons and we have traveled millions of miles just to roast you .

Which begs the question: Does anyone here in the forum lives in California? Or Australia?

Because I'm on a project and I just checked a few maps and the solar irradiation at California and some places of Australia are almost as strong as the one of my place, but I've never heard people from California or Australia saying it is hot there. The irradiation is ridiculous, like at my place. So I wonder why I have never heard someone from California or Australia saying it is hot there. I know there are other factors that affect temperature like altitude, latitude, insolation, and there is also the heat index to count for the human perception, but according to the maps I'm reading, it should be hot places. Specially places that are close to... what is this place I'm reading here in this map?... It says Arizona. And according to this map, Arizona receives even more irradiation at the south-west . Yet I've never heard anyone from California or Australia saying it is hot. Perhaps they can afford air conditioners and therefore they don't notice . I don't know.

At my place I cannot afford air conditioners and right now my room temperature is 94.7F. This sun is hitting it hard . I'm shutting down the computer before it burns out.

 

[ProfuselyQuarky]

Does anyone here in the forum lives in California?

I live in California and, yeah, it's warm. And, yes, the sun attacks hard at times. Definitely not like Arizona or anything like that, but California can get extremely hot when you go inland. A large number of the population is near the coast, though, we often get sea breezes that compensate for the sun beating on your back. This time of year is usually hot but, surprisingly, it's been extremely mild right now. I'm looking out the window and it's cloudy outside right now and the thermostat reads 72°F. That's scary I'm not sure if it has to do with last winter's El Nino, but this year has been definitely unusual regarding weather.

People here can afford air conditioners and it does get put to use. Not everybody has one, though, especially right near the beach. The specific place where I live is kind of weird because you can drive 10-15 minutes and find yourself in a really wealthy area with multi-million dollar houses with Maseratis parked on the driveways . But if you drive 10-15 minutes in another direction, you'll be in a relatively "unattractive" area that is significantly less well-to-do. In that very same way, if you drive a little bit south from my house and you'll hit the harbor and Pacific Coast Highway, but if you drive a little bit north, you'll find yourself in the hills.

So even though everybody here may live in the same vicinity, everyone has their own experiences, POVs, and pass times (which dictates whether they spend most of their time indoors or out).

Poor Psinter! I hope it cools down for you! Here you go ~~ *sends a glass of lemonade with ice cubes via the Internet*

40% - 60% - < 1% and a few speak letzebergisch (Luxembourg) which isn't an official language. However, meanwhile arabic and turkey might have a significant ratio. At least they (Morrocans and Turks) outnumber the other minorities.

Thanks, I was hoping French wouldn't be the main language Actually, I was hoping somebody would answer "Belgian", but, alas, there's no such thing

 

[fresh_42]

Thanks, I was hoping French wouldn't be the main language Actually, I was hoping somebody would answer "Belgian", but, alas, there's no such thing

Well, I can't judge on french and dutch. But I know how german and letzebergsch sound in that particular area of Europe. You may call this belgian, I won't object!

 

[JorisL]

The French of the Walloons also differs from the French in France.
One example is the way they say ninety, "quatre-vingt dix" versus "nonante" where the first can be translated as "four times twenty and ten".

The Dutch in Flanders is also different, often called Flemish but that's too general if you ask me.
Neglecting the dialect in West Flanders which is basically a whole different language, each region has its own dialect.
In fact close to my hometown they speak something of a hybrid between Dutch and German if you like using "Ich, Dich and Du" for the personal pronouns as opposed to "Ik, jij and jij" in regular Dutch/Flemish (although the older "ge" is commonly used instead of "jij" where "ge" can be seen as the dutch translation of thee/thou)

Quite complicated since it's such a small region (<2 hours from east to west without traffic jams and slightly over the speed limit)

 

[ProfuselyQuarky]

Hm, so I guess if I went to Belgium (after having learned Dutch) I'd have to stick around a while before I actually understand anything

 

[fresh_42]

Hm, so I guess if I went to Belgium (after having learned Dutch) I'd have to stick around a while before I actually understand anything

This is probably true for any language. I remember what my sister once told me. As soon as she had her driver license, she booked a flight to the states, bought a used and cheap car somewhere at the east coast and drove to California selling the car again. The car was one of the kind which needed more oil than gas and had more similarity to a model of an aircraft carrier than a car. It was huge and my sister small. She told me afterwards that especially in the south she didn't understand a word. Meanwhile she lives in MI and understands probably even people from the south.
So, as always in life, everything is a matter of practice.

 

[WWGD]

This is probably true for any language. I remember what my sister once told me. As soon as she had her driver license, she booked a flight to the states, bought a used and cheap car somewhere at the east coast and drove to California selling the car again. The car was one of the kind which needed more oil than gas and had more similarity to a model of an aircraft carrier than a car. It was huge and my sister small. She told me afterwards that especially in the south she didn't understand a word. Meanwhile she lives in MI and understands probably even people from the south.
So, as always in life, everything is a matter of practice.

I too, have been told I need more oil than gas (It is one of those statements that is halfway between making sense and being completely meaningless, senseless).

 

[WWGD]

Couldn't we erase $2$ from the list of primes if we simply take $\mathbb{Z}[\sqrt{2}]$? Ok, $\sqrt{2}$ would become the new black, but at least it won't be even.

Is the $\sqrt{2}$ Related to the primes or to the diagonal of a sandwich with sides of length 1 each (or to both)?

 

[Psinter]

I live in California and, yeah, it's warm. And, yes, the sun attacks hard at times. Definitely not like Arizona or anything like that, but California can get extremely hot when you go inland. A large number of the population is near the coast, though, we often get sea breezes that compensate for the sun beating on your back. This time of year is usually hot but, surprisingly, it's been extremely mild right now. I'm looking out the window and it's cloudy outside right now and the thermostat reads 72°F. That's scary I'm not sure if it has to do with last winter's El Nino, but this year has been definitely unusual regarding weather.

People here can afford air conditioners and it does get put to use. Not everybody has one, though, especially right near the beach. The specific place where I live is kind of weird because you can drive 10-15 minutes and find yourself in a really wealthy area with multi-million dollar houses with Maseratis parked on the driveways . But if you drive 10-15 minutes in another direction, you'll be in a relatively "unattractive" area that is significantly less well-to-do. In that very same way, if you drive a little bit south from my house and you'll hit the harbor and Pacific Coast Highway, but if you drive a little bit north, you'll find yourself in the hills.

So even though everybody here may live in the same vicinity, everyone has their own experiences, POVs, and pass times (which dictates whether they spend most of their time indoors or out).

Poor Psinter! I hope it cools down for you! Here you go ~~ *sends a glass of lemonade with ice cubes via the Internet*

Thanks, I was hoping French wouldn't be the main language Actually, I was hoping somebody would answer "Belgian", but, alas, there's no such thing

Oh thanks for the lemonade! *mlem mlem mlem*

It's okay though. I wasn't sweating when the temperature was like that. I was normal.

Wow, 72F. For me that's cold. You know when they say that you cannot put a fish in a tank immediately because it may get sick and it needs cycling for stuff to settle? I get put in a 72F environment without gradual adaptation and I'll probably get sick. I'd be like: I think I may need to lay down here for a while with my blanket .

You can really find those houses in the open? That's also amazing. At my place, houses on the multi-million dollar range are located inside urbanizations that have huge walls and you can't see to the inside. Those on that range that don't have huge walls are made in small mountains that collapse and the buyers lose their money. But buyers of those houses are very old people, they have money, I haven't seen them complaining about their houses getting destroyed by collapses of the terrain.

 

[Pepper Mint]

Oh his tongue, soooo...hmmm.